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Axil62 (Mar 4, 2004)
"It's a still life watercolor of a now late afternoon, as the sun shines through the curtain lace and shadows wash the room. And we sit and drink our coffee, couched in our indifference like shells upon a shore you can hear the ocean roar in the dangling conversation, and the superficial sighs, the boarders of our lives. And you read your Emily Dickinson and I my Robert Frost and we note our place with book markers that measure what weve lost...." Simon and Garfunkle
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Axil62 (Mar 5, 2004)
Thanks guys. Prshade it.
Marienkind (edited Mar 5, 2004)
that's better. lovely reddish shade. kind of changes the feel of the picture.
tasteless senryu:
i sleep with the dead.
frequently. they are nice and they
do not bite me.
alwaysLearning (Mar 11, 2004)
One of my all-time favourite songs, Axil - and you did it justice. The final version really captures the feelings of "the shadows wash the room", in a way that the earlier versions didn't, leaving the image more disconnected from the song. This brings them back into a connected whole, as a picture and its description should be, IMHO. :) The only flaw is not in the image or its execution, but in the connection between it and the song - because she doesn't look "couched in indifference", but instead intently focused. No insult intended, though -- the piece is gorgeous, regardless.
shell (Mar 1, 2011)
lovely
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ToraNeko (Mar 1, 2004)
Now isn't this just an awe inspering title? lol
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Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Reading all that arguing made me angry. Then I scrolled back up to see the picture and I got happy again! Such is the power of art.

I could just fall in love with this picture. Everything's there, all placed to it's right place making this a balanced masterpiece. The colours, lineart... heck, even the slight reflection on the water or how them fingers show through the water.

I like the original, felineish creature, as it reminds me of a fursona I created for my best friend. She, too, has horns and cat-like features and hooves. Even the hair-colour reminds of her. And am I bitching about copyrights? Hell no.~ Since it's said that a room with a hundred chimpanzees, given the time and typewriters, could type the whole Shakespeare productions, then why couldn't two people in this world come up with similar-looking characters? Not to say that they remind (as Marcello said) in any other real way that both are furries and have horns.

And if my comment starts the whole stupid, insensible whining all over again, I'm sorry in advance.
Alinnia (edited Mar 8, 2004)
'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice. Sure, it's a nice peice. The drawing is nice. The coloring is nice. The idea is nice. But the character design is not original... it's as simple as that. It disappoints me to see such uncreative artists... and irrisponsible moderators. It's irritating to know that the 'attitudes' of the DeviantArt Admin have migrated on to other sites that /seem/ to have so much potential...

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it. (Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.) If /I/ didn't think I was being ripped off, I wouldn't've said anything. Anything at all. ...

(And YES, ToraNeko, as a matter of fact, before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time, to make /sure/ our concepts are different than those around us... it's all part of our responsibility as designers... If you can't take on that responsibility... DON'T DO IT.)

And of COURSE the world is built on modifying different things. My character in and of himself must be made of at least 12 different concepts from existing characters from popular series'... but you'd never know. It IS a hybrid of 2 different animals.. animals aren't copyrighted.. however, within the thousands of combinations one /could/ have made with these animals, why should 2 designs look /that/ simliar at all? And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is. Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people. Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.

These sites no longer have my support. No funding. No art. No reccomendations. Only warnings to those who may wish to join. Don't post your ideas on these sites.. fan-wannabes /will/ steal them..

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen. Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
marcello (edited Mar 9, 2004)
All I can say is: OMG LMFAO

Find me some people who actually agree with you, because there sure are a lot of people who do not. Copyright law is not being broken here, so do not make it sound like someone is doing you a great injustice.

edit: at the expense of my linear algebra homework, I am gonna actually try replying to your message. Although I find it hard to stop laughing.

'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?
Despite what you might think, the moderators for a site are to help me, not you. No where do we claim to be artistic moderators or professionals in the field of critiquing or judging your pictures. We are not paid enough for that.

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice.
Sorry to take you away from your busy schedule. But aside from your effort to make yourself sound superior again, you really need to learn how to spell. A college student has no excuse for misspelling 8 words in something that short, especially with words such as "piece," "irresponsible," "field," "thoroughly," and so on. And none are typos.

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it.
First off, as we do not know of every character or drawing submitted on the internet, we really cannot do anything about pieces that no one says anything about. In this case, there is no relation at all between the characters to give you any case.

(Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.)
Then e-mail him and send him this link, and have him CC me a reply, I want to hear his opinion.

before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time
Care to share how one goes about doing this? How would someone find your design, for example, and know to avoid copying it? Search for "original furries with horns" on google?

And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.
Again, you continue to insult my intelligence. And though undeserving, I spent quite a bit of time looking over both of them, side-by-side to see if I could see what you meant. Alas I found quite the opposite, as I detailed in my previous messages.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.
Quite sad. Definitely not safe, in fact, you might even get a virus! *shocker* I want to find someone serious about their "practition." (P.s. I am mocking you here, because your b.s.ing is amusing.)

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is.
Do not support them, then. No one is forcing you.

Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people.
You realize you sound like a snob when you say that, right?

Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.
This is your problem, you are so caught up in the politics of it that you cannot do it for fun. 2draw is not a place to post your resume, it is to have fun drawing in one's spare time.

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen.
Wow, if something this "similar" is the worst that will happen when someone rips me off, I guess I should not be too worried about anything!

Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
I shudder at the thought.

And in conclusion, your design is not that great. I mean, come on, it is a furry.
Dainamo (Mar 9, 2004)
:3
Marcello... most people against furry art don't find originality in their peices... I've seen a few rants and such where furry artists feel 'unloved' as opposed to a person who copies 'anime' art
o.o *shrugs* But that's just me.. find one of those people supporting her? Well I'd be one :3
Watch as I end up on some.. hit list now or something x.x;;

.... and yis, Mr. Tiemann is very strict about such things... I doubt Alinnia will be stopping here anymore so I'll deliver him this postage and stuff, alrighties? :3

Sometimes I just wish some peeps would see eye to eye instead of thinking their views are always correct...
Although posting to the pic...
only thing I see wrong with it is the tongue... x.x Too red for my tastes.. other than that, it's a fine peice. If it was copy designed or not, I like it :3
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brushes4 (Mar 4, 2004)
view from the curtains in my old downtown apt. first time in a long time using the lascaux...what the heck is the wand? lol..i accidently clicked it and was from then on annoyed my the moving border lol. HMMM i didnt mean to post it as finished...i want to sharpen up a few things, will gladly accept suggestions as well :o)
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foxman8245 (Mar 4, 2004)
this is toooo cool.... twilight zone kinda !!
fleeting_memory (Mar 4, 2004)
this is pretty sweet-reminds me of stuff Thecatspaw used to draw-I love this concept-keep drawing!
fleeting_memory (Mar 4, 2004)
this is pretty sweet-reminds me of stuff Thecatspaw used to draw-I love this concept-keep drawing!
brushes4 (Mar 5, 2004)
drawn in 24 min
already starting to overwork it....so im not gonna even try, sides...i like it :O)
drawn in 1 hour 5 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
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Sin
EverDream (Mar 3, 2004)
Sin is an ugly thing....it dirties the purest of things...slowly fading it away or crumbling it messily. It stains, kills, blackens.

~yah I know, this pic was really out of the norm of my usual work.
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Lyn (Jun 19, 2006)
This is totally cool....You have great talent :O)
beth92093 (Oct 17, 2006)
wow leme just say wow great work!!!
brownskin12 (Aug 31, 2009)
Awesome.I am new here.It's gonna take a while to learn how to draw one here.
RUSSIANFOXX (Aug 7, 2023)
daym. i like it. very noice. very segxy. gives off cowboy bebop vibes. /('w')/
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Ameraq (Mar 3, 2004)
um?
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fleeting_memory (Mar 3, 2004)
very nice dipiction (or however you spell that) I haven't drawn a horse in a long time-your proportions are awsome and I like the coarse feeling of the mane and forelock
dixielandcutie (Mar 3, 2004)
oh wow. thats so realistic. looks like mine, hehe. only with black insteada brown. rockin.
davincipoppalag (Mar 3, 2004)
beautifully done.. you did the eye spot on!
WildMageDaine90 (Mar 6, 2004)
you like horses, don't ya? cool...it reminds me of one of the horses that lives in the stable near my house. very nice

--WildMage
drawn in 1 hour 22 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
dixielandcutie (Mar 2, 2004)
...
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davincipoppalag (Mar 3, 2004)
Lol dixie Im gonna hug ya first (dixie) but this one looks like Big Bird as roadkill.. lol
dixielandcutie (Mar 4, 2004)
hehe. im seein it...
fleeting_memory (Mar 8, 2004)
um-a glowing coffin? In the bottom left corner I see like this shadow demon reaching toward the handle of the coffin thingy and like a big yellow thingy with eyes coming from the coffin or into the coffin from above-the only thing I can make outa the red and blue lights on the right is those old fasion 3D glasses.....so confused-so is it like a soul being drawn into heaven rather than the evil spirits of hell or something? AH please explain or I'm going with Davinici's theory of road kill big bird
dixielandcutie (Mar 11, 2004)
LOL. fleeting memory. you're hilarious. the old-fashioned 3-d glasses looking things are ambulance lights ;p that help?
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short_n_sweet (Mar 2, 2004)
It's Kirby eating a watermelon... plz comment plz!!
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fleeting_memory (Mar 3, 2004)
OMG this is so cute! It's kinda confusing where the watermelon ends and Kirby begins-I love the addition of the heart-so cute!!!!!!!!!!!!
drawn in 31 min with PaintBBS
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DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 2, 2004)
An elephants trunk is powered by 150,000 separate muscles.

This took about an hour & 1/2 less than clock showed, got up to help daughter w/ something & forgot about it, then I clicked on the button from hell in the applet and couldn't figure out which application to undo.. bout an hour later I accidentally undid what I had done and could finish. lol
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Bumble_Beez (Jul 3, 2004)
WOW... I mean WOW... I mean... Uh... Wow?
Xodiak (Oct 28, 2004)
Nice clouds... soft and dark! I like the elephants too! >:D
|XOD|
Miss_DJ (Feb 16, 2006)
awwww sweet and wonderful colors!
davincipoppalag (Jul 6, 2018)
the caravan
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fleeting_memory (Mar 2, 2004)
a glowing instrument riding a bicycle saying "eat fish"

You gotta love the idea box lol
how do you like it?
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Gigandas (Mar 2, 2004)
XDDD.That's cool XD. I like how you tilted the bell this way so that it looks like it has a circular head.That's a creative touch you added there^^.Nice XD.
davincipoppalag (Mar 2, 2004)
you can tune an instrument..but..can you tuna fish?
fleeting_memory (Mar 3, 2004)
HA-HA *slaps knee*
dixielandcutie (Mar 3, 2004)
lol. thats really cute fm, awesome shading with the light too..
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fleeting_memory (Feb 25, 2004)
I actually have two versions of this-one like this and one where the dragon is orange-next save I'll post the other one-as for now this is far from done-please tell me what you guys think
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Thear (Mar 17, 2004)
Yeei! a dragon! :) i love dragons! so your ff9 fan too? =)
fleeting_memory (Mar 17, 2004)
haha of course-but I'm not to good at drawing the characters that's why I applaud your attempts-best game ever-best game
Thear (Mar 17, 2004)
hehee :) u shoud draw more dragons i think....
15grifficorntears (edited May 9, 2004)
oooooo! i see a dragon! very good though you might want to add more feeling.
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