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lilypad and Harmanye (Mar 9, 2004)
blood is there, and blood will stay there...
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Harmanye (Mar 12, 2004)
drawn in 28 min
I hope you like it, I did my best.
I liked your idea of aborder, but it took away from the image by going over the girl, so I made it go 'under', hope that's alright ^^;
lilypad (Mar 13, 2004)
oh, wow. THX! this is so great! i'm glad you offered to help! ^^
Harmanye (Mar 13, 2004)
No problem ^_^ It was fun
lilypad (Mar 13, 2004)
that's good to hear. ^^
drawn in 1 hour 8 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Misc. Boards/Sprites 
SuzieSuze (Nov 21, 2003)
i tried to draw me.. it turned out pretty good I think.
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strangeoid (Nov 22, 2003)
Wowies. Meh liketh mucho. lol. I really must work on mt language skills.
SuzieSuze (Nov 23, 2003)
drawn in 18 min
fixed it up a bit
Harmanye (Nov 24, 2003)
Ooh yes, looks even better with a bow, I'm always getting mixed up on the obvious, so now I can actually tell, once and for all, that gold thing is hair. If I was more observant I could have known before, but there you have it.

Still amazing, just more so.
left_hander (Mar 12, 2004)
this is nice i like it a lot
drawn in 45 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Main Forums/Drawing Discussion 
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South Paws?
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 8, 2004)
I am really curious about something, and I thought this would be a good place to take a little survey on it... I have noticed (when I pay attention to it) that when doing anything "artsy", such as going to a museum, art gallery, openings, even playing drawing games, that the left-handed people generally outnumber the right-handed people. This would sort of confirm that we left handed people are in our right mind, which is the creative side of the brain. (Not to say, by any means, that there are...
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collaberation? how? yeeesh!
brushes4 (Mar 11, 2004)
little brushes and i want to do a collaberation. how would he and i access the same image? ive never done one, and looked around the site a bit to find out if there's info but havent seen it. im sure now that i post this i'll find it easily lol. appreciate the help :o)
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Public Boards/Beginner 
Minitsaru (Mar 8, 2004)
i'm confused. what is this? (inspired by rammstein - du hast... its a poc song...)
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Harmanye (Mar 8, 2004)
Looks like a shotgun.... oO.
Luverly single colour use though...
F_loug (Mar 11, 2004)
yo man good one this look like a gun why did you not call it a shotgun
drawn in 29 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Hakkai (Mar 10, 2004)
Lol, just a weird thought came up and this is what happened! Overkilled it with the pink and purple.. and green. Ah well.
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furyofroy (Mar 10, 2004)
That is just... I love it. :D
You should draw more furries. Just to please me.
two-na (Mar 10, 2004)
haha, I like the hulk underoos. i think this is real neat line art
BaNdItAtTaCk1 (Mar 10, 2004)
My friend is always saying: "Spandex is a priviledge, not a right.." and it sure seemd that she's wrong when i look at this picture!
Neko (Mar 11, 2004)
Oh, poor guy. His expression is just so cute... I like the simple background.
drawn in 1 hour 16 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Advanced 
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 8, 2004)
If I had known I was going to have to post this in advanced for the space I would have done it bigger.
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DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 10, 2004)
Of course it's obvious thug, and I always think you're funny. Umm, "Yeah, thug, man you're dense! Isn't it obvious I'm from New York?" lol Okay, I love my state. Can't help it.
marcello (Mar 10, 2004)
meh...texas. =P
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 10, 2004)
Gotta have it in your blood to understand.
Harmanye (Mar 10, 2004)
Texas *shudder*
It's like being in a permanent heat wave, no I like it here in Illinois. Snow is good.
But Texas has made me entertaining. Yes, kids at camp are greatly amused by my Illinois/British/Texan 'accent'.

But About the picture. 'Tis lovely as always, wonderful shading, and the folding is amazing *yes*
drawn in 3 hours 42 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Misc. Boards/Sprites 
SuzieSuze (Nov 20, 2003)
mom, can I keep it..pleeeaase!!
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Harmanye (Nov 20, 2003)
Cute! I love the shading techinque.
And those expressions are wonderful ^_^
witheringsoul (Mar 10, 2004)
Hehe...This is so me! ^^; Except...I usually end up accidently killing my pets in the end. lol. So horrible...

<3
drawn in 28 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
Brea83 (Mar 8, 2004)
Urm... I'm new here, but not entirely new to drawing on the comp... I dont think my work is good enough to qualify for the intermediate board, but I'm not entirely certain that it'll fit in here either...
I'm just kind of insecure I suppose.

Anywho, the lyrics on the image are from Iris, by the Goo Goo Dolls.
Also where I got the title from, how original eh? ^^;
Comments are welcome.
~Brea~
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Harmanye (Mar 8, 2004)
The song is called Iris actually ^^;

Nice picture, looking forward to more.
Brea83 (Mar 8, 2004)
D'oh
*Fixes the title*

^^ I will try and come here and draw whenever I feel inspired, but as of March 11 I'm with my mom driving down to Texas and I will not have ANY computer for quite some time.
fleeting_memory (Mar 8, 2004)
AH! No computer? Better get crackin I wanna see masterpieces! lol j/k-this is cool and I really like that song I saw the first line and started singing it-luckily no one can hear me ^^
SaheraNights (Mar 9, 2004)
Hey I know those lyrics
drawn in 2 hours 15 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Intermediate 
ToraNeko (Mar 1, 2004)
Now isn't this just an awe inspering title? lol
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Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Reading all that arguing made me angry. Then I scrolled back up to see the picture and I got happy again! Such is the power of art.

I could just fall in love with this picture. Everything's there, all placed to it's right place making this a balanced masterpiece. The colours, lineart... heck, even the slight reflection on the water or how them fingers show through the water.

I like the original, felineish creature, as it reminds me of a fursona I created for my best friend. She, too, has horns and cat-like features and hooves. Even the hair-colour reminds of her. And am I bitching about copyrights? Hell no.~ Since it's said that a room with a hundred chimpanzees, given the time and typewriters, could type the whole Shakespeare productions, then why couldn't two people in this world come up with similar-looking characters? Not to say that they remind (as Marcello said) in any other real way that both are furries and have horns.

And if my comment starts the whole stupid, insensible whining all over again, I'm sorry in advance.
Alinnia (edited Mar 8, 2004)
'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice. Sure, it's a nice peice. The drawing is nice. The coloring is nice. The idea is nice. But the character design is not original... it's as simple as that. It disappoints me to see such uncreative artists... and irrisponsible moderators. It's irritating to know that the 'attitudes' of the DeviantArt Admin have migrated on to other sites that /seem/ to have so much potential...

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it. (Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.) If /I/ didn't think I was being ripped off, I wouldn't've said anything. Anything at all. ...

(And YES, ToraNeko, as a matter of fact, before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time, to make /sure/ our concepts are different than those around us... it's all part of our responsibility as designers... If you can't take on that responsibility... DON'T DO IT.)

And of COURSE the world is built on modifying different things. My character in and of himself must be made of at least 12 different concepts from existing characters from popular series'... but you'd never know. It IS a hybrid of 2 different animals.. animals aren't copyrighted.. however, within the thousands of combinations one /could/ have made with these animals, why should 2 designs look /that/ simliar at all? And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is. Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people. Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.

These sites no longer have my support. No funding. No art. No reccomendations. Only warnings to those who may wish to join. Don't post your ideas on these sites.. fan-wannabes /will/ steal them..

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen. Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
marcello (edited Mar 9, 2004)
All I can say is: OMG LMFAO

Find me some people who actually agree with you, because there sure are a lot of people who do not. Copyright law is not being broken here, so do not make it sound like someone is doing you a great injustice.

edit: at the expense of my linear algebra homework, I am gonna actually try replying to your message. Although I find it hard to stop laughing.

'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?
Despite what you might think, the moderators for a site are to help me, not you. No where do we claim to be artistic moderators or professionals in the field of critiquing or judging your pictures. We are not paid enough for that.

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice.
Sorry to take you away from your busy schedule. But aside from your effort to make yourself sound superior again, you really need to learn how to spell. A college student has no excuse for misspelling 8 words in something that short, especially with words such as "piece," "irresponsible," "field," "thoroughly," and so on. And none are typos.

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it.
First off, as we do not know of every character or drawing submitted on the internet, we really cannot do anything about pieces that no one says anything about. In this case, there is no relation at all between the characters to give you any case.

(Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.)
Then e-mail him and send him this link, and have him CC me a reply, I want to hear his opinion.

before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time
Care to share how one goes about doing this? How would someone find your design, for example, and know to avoid copying it? Search for "original furries with horns" on google?

And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.
Again, you continue to insult my intelligence. And though undeserving, I spent quite a bit of time looking over both of them, side-by-side to see if I could see what you meant. Alas I found quite the opposite, as I detailed in my previous messages.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.
Quite sad. Definitely not safe, in fact, you might even get a virus! *shocker* I want to find someone serious about their "practition." (P.s. I am mocking you here, because your b.s.ing is amusing.)

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is.
Do not support them, then. No one is forcing you.

Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people.
You realize you sound like a snob when you say that, right?

Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.
This is your problem, you are so caught up in the politics of it that you cannot do it for fun. 2draw is not a place to post your resume, it is to have fun drawing in one's spare time.

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen.
Wow, if something this "similar" is the worst that will happen when someone rips me off, I guess I should not be too worried about anything!

Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
I shudder at the thought.

And in conclusion, your design is not that great. I mean, come on, it is a furry.
Dainamo (Mar 9, 2004)
:3
Marcello... most people against furry art don't find originality in their peices... I've seen a few rants and such where furry artists feel 'unloved' as opposed to a person who copies 'anime' art
o.o *shrugs* But that's just me.. find one of those people supporting her? Well I'd be one :3
Watch as I end up on some.. hit list now or something x.x;;

.... and yis, Mr. Tiemann is very strict about such things... I doubt Alinnia will be stopping here anymore so I'll deliver him this postage and stuff, alrighties? :3

Sometimes I just wish some peeps would see eye to eye instead of thinking their views are always correct...
Although posting to the pic...
only thing I see wrong with it is the tongue... x.x Too red for my tastes.. other than that, it's a fine peice. If it was copy designed or not, I like it :3
drawn in 3 hours 26 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
 
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