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comd (Apr 2, 2006)
Trying a bit more than a head this time since I have all this canvas space in the advanced section. I'm just going to try to copy the photo directly this time as closely as possible.
http://www.kristiaknowles.net/images/gallery/fitness/fit2.jpg

I'm not sure I'll get anywhere. Thanks all for the encouragement.

[Edit] This is the opposite of what I'm striving to do artistically as my goal is to draw more loosely from references (using information from the reference to make a completely different picture, not drawing the reference) and ultimately without needing references at all, but I wanted to try a shot at being unpainterly and more photorealistic: the antethesis of what I've been trying to do. To get the line drawing and major landmarks as accurately as possible, I initially started with a grid for the line drawing. This allowed me to shade and color more loosely without worrying about correcting inaccuracies from the previous stages. I don't think I quite got there as I still got lazy on the shading and didn't quite interpret the values correctly. It looks correct sized down, but not up close.
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Zack (Apr 5, 2006)
You might find it an interesting exercise to take a ref and try drawing it at a different angle. As soon as I have more free time I intend to make a number of drawings that are loosely referenced like that; maybe they have the same angle but different lighting, or they have different shading styles, etc. Personally, I see loose references as training wheels and strict references as crutches, but that's in terms of my own artistic goals and not a criticism of other artists here. In light of your goals, I'd say dropping the grid system is probably a good idea.
comd (edited Apr 5, 2006)
Modifying angles, lighting, or the original 3D form of the reference is the kind of stuff I'd like to ultimately do when using references. Just anything that demands the 3D form is understood so that it could be used to produce other 3D forms is what would benefit me most. I tend to be more 2D-oriented when copying photos regardless of whether I'm using measuring devices or just freehanding, and that's useful for copying 2D images, but not for inventing 3D ones. I tend to ask questions like, "what's the 2D shape of this highlight? How does it relate vertically and horizontally to this other mark?" Rather than, "what's the 3D form of this figure"? If I understood the 3D form, then I could invent my own highlights without using the precise shapes in the photograph.

I pretty much knew this picture wasn't what I should have been doing when I started on it based on my goals, regardless of the grid (though the grid made it that much worse). I set out only to draw the reference as accurately as possible and nothing more. In that sense, it's one of my biggest failures since that's the last thing I want to be doing in the future as I progress. I didn't even try to experiment with painterly techniques - I was trying to be as unpainterly as possible in this one so that it would look just like a photo. Generally I get the most comments about the painterly aspects of my works when working from photos, but this time I really wanted to try not being painterly (I tend to be painterly for economical purposes, not intentionally). I didn't even really achieve the photorealism I intended to achieve despite the use of the grid for the line drawing, so I didn't even succeed in that respect. While it's completely against my personal goals, I still admire the artists on here who can make their paintings look just like a photograph. I was hoping to achieve it here, but I think I deviated too much in the shading and still relied too much on lines which gave that sort of cartoony effect in places.
frootcake (Apr 6, 2006)
omg biggest posts ever. great pic and i've been a victim of the grid in the past. when the masters of the past were working on frescoes - they couldn't draw straight from life, so they did their preliminary drawing and they would grid that whole wall up before doing some of the greatest paintings ever made, theres no shame :):)
HunterKiller_ (Apr 7, 2006)
Mmm... (damn you essay writters.)
drawn in 7 hours 44 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
mazi (Mar 9, 2006)
life = hard.
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mazi (Mar 9, 2006)
drawn in 2 hours 24 min
pretend thats anatomically correct.... at least i'll pretend it is..
davincipoppalag (Apr 7, 2006)
Looks good to me..just nice to see a mazi pic
Unfinished
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zep (Mar 21, 2006)
comment whore?
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Miss_DJ (Mar 31, 2006)
I always know it's a 'zep' without even looking at the name. Wonderful 'zeptacular' work.
staci (Apr 1, 2006)
but what does it all mean!?
davincipoppalag (Apr 1, 2006)
He's playing the Spanish version of "Deal or No Deal" Staci
Mal (Apr 6, 2006)
I really like this one , theres always great use of colour in your pieces.
drawn in 3 hours 9 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
zep (Jun 14, 2005)
or...sad Al
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two-na (Jun 15, 2005)
fav
zep (Jun 16, 2005)
thanks...Albert was quite a great man...
IkariIreuL (Jun 16, 2005)
Ty854: I like of that music when you spank the monkey over 200 mph [ Not sure :P ] :)
matt104w (Apr 5, 2006)
i prefer stephen hawking over einstein but awsome drawing
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Pseudonymous (Mar 7, 2006)
Me.
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davincipoppalag (Mar 17, 2006)
Clem! Get the shotgun..that there filly got the hydrophobe! She's foamin' at the mouf!" hehehee Definately finish it! it can wait till the homework is done..it isn't going anywhere!
Pseudonymous (Mar 20, 2006)
lol!
Pseudonymous (Apr 3, 2006)
drawn in 1 hour 9 min
Hmmm...Been staring at it too long. I still look like I"m smirking, but it's ok. :)
khendar (Apr 5, 2006)
Who else things she's allowed to smirk ? :P
Unfinished
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Opium (Apr 1, 2006)
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patienceisoverrated (Apr 4, 2006)
I like the skin texture you added. I like his wrinkles, too.... people with wrinkles are intresting to draw. It's like, all their life experiences and feelings and whatever are written on their faces.
Sweetcell (Apr 4, 2006)
I think you can be a believer of both, and I am. Being Roman Catholic myself I learned about His creation and evolution, and it's funny it seemed easy for me to blend the two, meld it if you will. I believe He exists and created the Earth and everything around us, but I also believe in the Big Bang and evolution... hmmmm maybe that makes me a bit by-polar. That would explain things.

You can have Creation and Evolution, I believe it. Maybe someone just needs to find the middle where both fits.

Awesome piece Opium, love that hair. He does look tired.....
gerbear (Apr 5, 2006)
Excellent portrait! Very impressed with it.
Opium (Apr 5, 2006)
Thanks Marcello, patience, sweetcell, and gerbear! :)
drawn in 2 hours 9 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Airin (Apr 1, 2006)
a quiet pose, please keep in mind I have not done portraits for some time
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Artiste (edited Apr 3, 2006)
Airin: dont be afraid to ruin the artwork by adding dark colors where you feel they belong. Your colors are very very light and tentative.
It looks as though you dont want to lay anything too definitive down for fear that you might ruinn the peice. I almost never paint on a pure
white canvas, and almost always start with the darker areas. It looks like youve started from the lights.

Make big broad strokes to define what you see... and dont be tentative... dont worry if you ruin it, you can always start over.
Miss_DJ (Apr 3, 2006)
my first guess would be Gwyneth Paltrow...nice start!
Airin (edited Apr 3, 2006)
Yes, it's Gwyneth, not 100% true to the ref though. There are quite a few areas where i should've used darker overall tones, but it would be very difficult for me to blend that in without changing the entire picture. The eyes for instance are cast in much more shadow than i used.
Miss_DJ (Apr 3, 2006)
yeah!! I knew it! It was obvious to me, great draw! keep goin!
Unfinished
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comd (Apr 1, 2006)
Nothing has been popping out to me from the blank canvas to doodle, so I went back to trying to draw from a photo again, but this time I played around with features even more than usual.

Reference photo:
http://gallery.amazon.ee/view_photo.php?set_albumName=European_Championships_2005&id=abh

I was originally planning to do an orc and sought out a scary-looking bodybuilder for the reference, but I ended up with a wizard instead.

This is my first attempt at submitting something in the advanced category. I hope it's okay: I spent ages on it, and I wanted to have the extra space available for revisions since I'm always running out of space.
7 comments – latest 4:
woah_pockster (Apr 2, 2006)
I'm loving all of your work dear, this definatly belongs on advanced. keep up the good work, can't wait to see what you do next =] <3
Opium (Apr 2, 2006)
I really like this! did you really spend that much time on this?? Now that's patience. He looks so much like someone I know....I can't put my finger on it...
Sweetcell (Apr 2, 2006)
Wow just..... wow. You belong, believe me.

Reminds me of General Zod from Superman. Without the crown.

Version 1 looks like a comicbook panel.
Version 2 looks like a bronze statue.
And the 3rd I mentioned.
WOWZERS.
Miss_DJ (Apr 3, 2006)
just awesome! love the tendons in his neck..yowza.
drawn in 11 hours 24 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
zep (Mar 25, 2006)
everybody knows
14 comments – latest 4:
Miss_DJ (Mar 29, 2006)
some people do care..and you draw really well.
zep (Apr 2, 2006)
thanks a lot :)
Zack (Apr 2, 2006)
I really enjoy all the little details you put in your pictures.
friend (Apr 2, 2006)
That kind of pistol could come in handy!
Great job.
drawn in 2 hours 6 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
zep (Apr 1, 2006)
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zep (Apr 2, 2006)
hi people...thanks

hey comd thanks but NOT anything hehehe
and Hey solve, your comment make me search if i have other doodles about this kind...so:
http://cellosoft.com/2draw/view/34160/
http://cellosoft.com/2draw/view/28831/
http://cellosoft.com/2draw/view/24056/
enjoy and like Clox said;

Peace
solve (Apr 2, 2006)
A very interesting discovery zep. I really really like radio head, it is a very solid and lush work. Its strange because i always would associate a natural look (as far as the subjects go) to your works. Not anymore : )
zep (Apr 2, 2006)
:) as you see i´m quite naive in this kind of theme....thanks for your comments
Zack (Apr 2, 2006)
This is great. Makes me think of some deep sea diving suit. I remember those older ones too, you're great at sci-fi stuff Zep. :]
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