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comd
(Apr 9, 2006)
Just a doodle for practice.Using a reference for the basic idea (a screen capture from Flesh & Blood). http://www.feebonics.org/images/flesh_and_blood_ref.jpg I'd normally put something like this in beginner, but I really wanted the extra canvas space. I hope it's okay. |
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Sweetcell
(Apr 10, 2006)
This is for Davincipoppa who's been sweet to comment on many of my pics (even the cruddy ones) and well, just because. Hope you like Dave.I put this in advanced for the space. The mods can put it down to Intermediate if they have a mind. And oi... so much fricken rigging......
Sweetcell (Jun 20, 2006)
Well thank you Neato.... Neto sorry. Appreciate it. I'm afraid I don't read Japanese.And than you catfreeek.
Baranowski (Aug 16, 2006)
This is awesome, its and incredible picture, u did a wonderful job it looks so real!!
Wraith (Nov 9, 2007)
Late Comment.. But DAMN! AMazing! Love the atmosphere bigtime. (Drooling)
Cameo (Apr 24, 2008)
This is so awesome, I just had to bring it to the forefront again! The detail is amazing! ;o) |
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Kloxboy
(Apr 9, 2006)
I'm zonked.
TRIP (Apr 9, 2006)
colors rock me.I like v.5 best :>
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2006)
Different lookin fella, Clox, I kinda liked those bright stripes in v.5 too.
comd (edited Apr 10, 2006)
I have to say I like v6 the best. Looking at the picture makes me think about a lot of things, and I love it. This is probably one of my favorites on 2draw. Just looking at it makes me happy and nostalgic for some reason. It makes me think about retroactive conceptions of the future.
Moosh (Apr 10, 2006)
That shading style is killer. I also like v.5 best. |
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Hopeless
(Mar 27, 2006)
blah.
davincipoppalag (Apr 10, 2006)
Really good work. That hand looks fine to me.
xiang (Apr 10, 2006)
Reminds me of a guy that was in my Spanish class O_o
Sweetcell (Apr 10, 2006)
That's a fine hand, well done, and again I say... yummm.
Miss_DJ (edited Apr 10, 2006)
his right breast? gets kinda lost somehow...but besides that...oo baby what a nice draw..keep the shirt off..lol btw..the hand and forearm are awesome! |
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Axil62
(Apr 9, 2006)
same subject as last time, different approach
comd (Apr 9, 2006)
That's excellent - the overall picture is very nice, but the individual sections are also very interesting on their own.
Cameo (Apr 9, 2006)
Wow! That is totally awesome.
komugimaro (Apr 9, 2006)
this is great especially for that amount of time
Sweetcell (Apr 9, 2006)
How you do these pictures in such a short time. I see what your doing, finding form with loose strokes. Bravo well done. She almost looks alive. |
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comd
(Apr 9, 2006)
Practicing skulls at various angles and trying to figure out how the muscles and skin wrap around them.
xiang (Apr 9, 2006)
DX gawd, how do you draw so well? Which school do you go to?P.S.: I saw a picture of your dog, Stinky. My dog looks exactly like him. :O
comd (edited Apr 9, 2006)
Thanks - I just copied the skull here though almost directly from my book at roughly the same angle. The main purpose of the exercise was to try to figure out how outer surface of the face forms around the skull (the red lines). I don't think I quite got that part right, as it looks kind of off to me.As for my school, I'm out of school now. I was a computer science major, so I didn't get much in the way of art classes. The extent of my formal schooling comes mostly from my high school art class and a graphics design class I took in college that was geared towards business majors. Most of my learning comes from books. My favorite authors are Hogarth, Loomis, and Bridgman. Hogarth's books just make me feel like I know absolutely nothing about anatomy. Loomis is probably the most helpful, and I like how Bridgman simplifies the human form into very mechanical-looking parts. I also have this one from Barcsay which I've been looking at a lot lately which is probably the most helpful one when it comes to understanding the forms of individual bones and muscles. I ultimately want to get comfortable drawing figures without references which is something I'm horrible at right now. I think it's because of the way I've used references traditionally in the past. I treated the process more as a hand-eye coordination exercise when copying what I saw rather than trying to learn the essential 3d forms through the experience. I'm trying to change that now. Is your dog a Chihuahua as well? I love them - I have another one named Beauty (the black one).
LisaAnne (Apr 9, 2006)
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comd
(Apr 9, 2006)
Recording my personal observations about the forearm. Note that these are just my personal notes based on things I've observed by looking at multiple pictures from my anatomy book, and I'm not sure they are 100% correct, though they appear to hold true for all the cases I've seen. I'm using my anatomy book as reference for the anatomy. I couldn't find these exact poses of the arm and hand, but found some pictures that were close enough.The ulna and radius seem to remain fairly stationary as the forearm rotates around the area where they connect to the humerus. The axis of rotation appears to pass through the individual centers of these two bones around these areas, and thus the bones simply rotate in place around the elbow without shifting position. At the wrist, however, the two pivot axises of these bones appear to converge around the center of the wrist, and so the position of the bones change primarily around the wrist where the pivot is no longer centered inside the bones, but outside the bones at the center of the wrist.
comd (Apr 9, 2006)
Oh thanks - you all are too nice. :) I'm not sure I got the exact shape of those bones right. I was looking at references but the slight curves of these bones are very complex to me: I think I might have simplified and straightened them too much. Basically the notes here are regarding the pivot axises of the two forearm bones. When I grab hold of my elbow and rotate my wrist, I can feel that the bones remain stationary around the elbow area because they're rotating in place there. However, they very obviously don't remain stationary at the wrist since they're not rotating in place there, but rather around the center of the wrist. I think it makes sense when drawing these bones to first start drawing around the wrist area, and then extend the bones to connect at the fixed positions around the elbow joint.
mazi (Apr 9, 2006)
close, but the radius is bigger towards the wrist :) you can feel that one sticking out by your thumb (that parts called the "styloid process" which the french kids remember because it sticks out like like the tip of a pen, or "stylo" in french) we got to play with real ones in labs all the time. it was so interesting.
comd (edited Apr 10, 2006)
Ah - I'm pretty sure the proportions are off in other areas as well. :( I think the scapula is a bit small too, and maybe the humerus as well. I wasn't quite sure how the humerus connected to the scapula also, so I also kind of winged it, but mainly I wanted to record how things rotate here in the forearm since I just figured out the basic pivot axises for the two bones today after looking at a bunch of drawings and feeling my own arm as I rotated it. Hopefully that part is semi-accurate.
mazi (Apr 10, 2006)
http://www.jointreplacement.com/bin/images/shoulder/other/shoulderanatomy2.jpgthe head of the humerus is kinda laid in the glenoid cavity (that little concave bit on the side) and laced on with lots of tendons and muscles :) |
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broken-lock14
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solve (Apr 11, 2006)
Friggin unreal. Very talented in this style.
Kulu (May 8, 2006)
big fan right here. the cauldron, the lace textures on her garments, and my fav the shading on her facebig fan...
kristine (May 24, 2006)
Bloody awesome....
cianteed2 (Jun 27, 2006)
i almost overlooked this til i stopped to check out the detail. kristine is right, bloody awesome! |
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Airin
(Apr 9, 2006)
I just have to paint 'em again next year...
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2006)
Very cute.. and he has talent!
emmamommalag (Apr 9, 2006)
What a clever idea. And so cute. :)EB's got baskets of eggs to paint, can't stay around 2draw all day...done for now. Hooray! I just wish I had room for a bunny tail =(
Miss_DJ (Apr 10, 2006)
adorable! |
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comd
(Apr 9, 2006)
Studying skeletal structure with 'Anatomy for the Artist' by Barcsay. The pose is not inside the book: I'm just using it to try to set up a proper skeletal structure by using multiple pictures from that book as reference. I had a particularly hard time with the forearm and pelvis because I couldn't find a drawing in the book that had the angles I needed to understand the particular forms in 3d space, so I also looked through some references on the internet a bit and felt my own forearm to try to get an idea of how those bones curve around each other. I'm still not quite sure about those areas. It'd be nice if I could figure out how to simplify them somehow.
DoOp (Apr 9, 2006)
**eat j00* This is really good o_O even for practice and such *tear tear* i'm dirven to try this sometime >_<can't help you on anything x.x wish i could, but i'm kinda.. learning off you :3
comd (edited Apr 9, 2006)
Oh thanks. :) I don't know how much I learned doing this study, but I did find out something exciting about the forearm. I'll try to draw another picture to show what I mean. It's probably common sense for most people, but I never really thought about it.The proportions are probably a bit off in this one, but I wasn't concerned about proportions - I just wanted to get the basic idea of the shapes of the bones at the angles provided. Also the bones look a bit thin to me for the amount of flesh I put around them. That's probably something I'm going to have to develop intuitively.
LisaAnne (Apr 9, 2006)
Its a very good study...when I had my life drawing class in the summer for college I remember my teacher having us draw each bone individually before she even let us draw full bodies...it helped alot, just knowing exactly how each bone connected to the next, and how weight effected them. The pelvis can be difficult, because of the curves, but honestly I like drawing it. (I'm talking about drawing in pencil/charcoal though, because haha I really lack skill with the mouse.)I'm very impressed. |
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Looking forward to seeing more. I think the mans arm just needs to be adjusted comd. His forearm partially horizontal and his upper arm jutting out just a little. Waiting to see this colored.
Sweetcell: With the arm, I think that's where I think I'm screwed by using a reference. I couldn't understand what was going on with his torso and arms from that dark picture, so I got trapped trying to draw it. I feel like if I redrew his head and the vertical traveling down his upper torso, I might be able to make it work better, but perhaps I'll be bold and erase him completely and try to draw something completely of my own in place with the hope that it won't end up looking like crap. Just trying to juxtapose a new arm in there without understanding the torso movement exactly just isn't working for me.
As for coloring, I'm not sure I plan to color this one. I love shading and coloring - it tends to be my favorite part of the process, but I need so much more practice at drawing first that coloring just sort of diverts my attention. I might keep it around to color later when I feel more comfortable with drawing though (or maybe just a day when I'm too stressed out to draw anything new).
I'd like to see this shaded with those off tone sepia colors with red highlights cause, well they're in the Dragons den. Fire man fire. XD Hope you finish soon.