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PinkuEspeon (Mar 8, 2004)
...uhm? Does anyone like Tasai the Tiger? I think that this tiger would be a great mascot! She's just as colorful as everyone else around here! ^_^
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PinkuEspeon (Mar 9, 2004)
Aww! Thanks, you guys! ^_^
lilypad (Mar 9, 2004)
kawaii! but i abree with tora...it does look like a dog. maybe you should change it to 'diane the dog'?
secert (Mar 9, 2004)
hi thats nice...i think the tiger is tring to paint a rainbow tasai means rainbow right?...
PinkuEspeon (Mar 10, 2004)
Secert is my dumb brother... he's trying to be a suck up just so that he can get some points... >: ( so... Marcello... watch out if he comments something nice on something that isn't a great work of art... okay? >:(
drawn in 1 hour 26 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
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Childlike_Vampire (Feb 20, 2004)
Comfort
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Tylop2 (Feb 23, 2004)
Awesome as usual, nice shading, and lineart...that guy kinda looks like me.....
Daymeon_StormRider (edited Feb 28, 2004)
Ya know...it reminds me of "UnderWorld" Yeah...the girl in that movie was pretty-full...as was the werewolf guy...both the leader guy, and the poor little guy getting chased for his blood. Hehe...Can I have em? **rubs hands together grinning evilly**...ya know...I've stared at it a bit more...and...that's you and that guy you met at the mall isn't it?!

Edit: **yells loudly** Child got LAAIIIDDD!!!!!!!!! **runs away and hides**
Childlike_Vampire (Feb 27, 2004)
Shhh Rainy! XP
lilypad (Mar 9, 2004)
it DOES kinda look like you...in a wierd way...very nice! me likes everything! i want your artistic ability!
drawn in 8 hours 23 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
ToraNeko (Mar 1, 2004)
Now isn't this just an awe inspering title? lol
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Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Reading all that arguing made me angry. Then I scrolled back up to see the picture and I got happy again! Such is the power of art.

I could just fall in love with this picture. Everything's there, all placed to it's right place making this a balanced masterpiece. The colours, lineart... heck, even the slight reflection on the water or how them fingers show through the water.

I like the original, felineish creature, as it reminds me of a fursona I created for my best friend. She, too, has horns and cat-like features and hooves. Even the hair-colour reminds of her. And am I bitching about copyrights? Hell no.~ Since it's said that a room with a hundred chimpanzees, given the time and typewriters, could type the whole Shakespeare productions, then why couldn't two people in this world come up with similar-looking characters? Not to say that they remind (as Marcello said) in any other real way that both are furries and have horns.

And if my comment starts the whole stupid, insensible whining all over again, I'm sorry in advance.
Alinnia (edited Mar 8, 2004)
'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice. Sure, it's a nice peice. The drawing is nice. The coloring is nice. The idea is nice. But the character design is not original... it's as simple as that. It disappoints me to see such uncreative artists... and irrisponsible moderators. It's irritating to know that the 'attitudes' of the DeviantArt Admin have migrated on to other sites that /seem/ to have so much potential...

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it. (Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.) If /I/ didn't think I was being ripped off, I wouldn't've said anything. Anything at all. ...

(And YES, ToraNeko, as a matter of fact, before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time, to make /sure/ our concepts are different than those around us... it's all part of our responsibility as designers... If you can't take on that responsibility... DON'T DO IT.)

And of COURSE the world is built on modifying different things. My character in and of himself must be made of at least 12 different concepts from existing characters from popular series'... but you'd never know. It IS a hybrid of 2 different animals.. animals aren't copyrighted.. however, within the thousands of combinations one /could/ have made with these animals, why should 2 designs look /that/ simliar at all? And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is. Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people. Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.

These sites no longer have my support. No funding. No art. No reccomendations. Only warnings to those who may wish to join. Don't post your ideas on these sites.. fan-wannabes /will/ steal them..

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen. Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
marcello (edited Mar 9, 2004)
All I can say is: OMG LMFAO

Find me some people who actually agree with you, because there sure are a lot of people who do not. Copyright law is not being broken here, so do not make it sound like someone is doing you a great injustice.

edit: at the expense of my linear algebra homework, I am gonna actually try replying to your message. Although I find it hard to stop laughing.

'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?
Despite what you might think, the moderators for a site are to help me, not you. No where do we claim to be artistic moderators or professionals in the field of critiquing or judging your pictures. We are not paid enough for that.

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice.
Sorry to take you away from your busy schedule. But aside from your effort to make yourself sound superior again, you really need to learn how to spell. A college student has no excuse for misspelling 8 words in something that short, especially with words such as "piece," "irresponsible," "field," "thoroughly," and so on. And none are typos.

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it.
First off, as we do not know of every character or drawing submitted on the internet, we really cannot do anything about pieces that no one says anything about. In this case, there is no relation at all between the characters to give you any case.

(Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.)
Then e-mail him and send him this link, and have him CC me a reply, I want to hear his opinion.

before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time
Care to share how one goes about doing this? How would someone find your design, for example, and know to avoid copying it? Search for "original furries with horns" on google?

And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.
Again, you continue to insult my intelligence. And though undeserving, I spent quite a bit of time looking over both of them, side-by-side to see if I could see what you meant. Alas I found quite the opposite, as I detailed in my previous messages.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.
Quite sad. Definitely not safe, in fact, you might even get a virus! *shocker* I want to find someone serious about their "practition." (P.s. I am mocking you here, because your b.s.ing is amusing.)

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is.
Do not support them, then. No one is forcing you.

Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people.
You realize you sound like a snob when you say that, right?

Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.
This is your problem, you are so caught up in the politics of it that you cannot do it for fun. 2draw is not a place to post your resume, it is to have fun drawing in one's spare time.

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen.
Wow, if something this "similar" is the worst that will happen when someone rips me off, I guess I should not be too worried about anything!

Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
I shudder at the thought.

And in conclusion, your design is not that great. I mean, come on, it is a furry.
Dainamo (Mar 9, 2004)
:3
Marcello... most people against furry art don't find originality in their peices... I've seen a few rants and such where furry artists feel 'unloved' as opposed to a person who copies 'anime' art
o.o *shrugs* But that's just me.. find one of those people supporting her? Well I'd be one :3
Watch as I end up on some.. hit list now or something x.x;;

.... and yis, Mr. Tiemann is very strict about such things... I doubt Alinnia will be stopping here anymore so I'll deliver him this postage and stuff, alrighties? :3

Sometimes I just wish some peeps would see eye to eye instead of thinking their views are always correct...
Although posting to the pic...
only thing I see wrong with it is the tongue... x.x Too red for my tastes.. other than that, it's a fine peice. If it was copy designed or not, I like it :3
drawn in 3 hours 26 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
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cursive (Feb 28, 2004)
hi ^^;
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Harlie_Mcallister (edited Feb 28, 2004)
So very cute.
Its seems so peaceful and playful and lovible aisha......Can't wait to see the background though!^_^
Knockoff (Feb 29, 2004)
YEa I think its look nice, I like the grass.
For some reason I like the lineart.
Well anyways nice job!
cursive (Feb 29, 2004)
drawn in 30 min
look out neopets beauty contest hehe; i have noo idea what to do for a background tho D:
DarkPhoenixLady (Mar 6, 2004)
It looks like a cross of Marie from Aristocats and an Aisha. Good job, I love it! (*ish going ot vote for it*)
drawn in 4 hours 4 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DMV (Feb 2, 2004)
it is different ...but I wanted to see a kind of abstact pic.
7 comments – latest 4:
Alicia (Feb 2, 2004)
This is amazing art. It blew me away! :)
ToraNeko (Feb 3, 2004)
O.O How can you have the patince to do that!? *is in awe* Oie, I like the eyes!
dixielandcutie (Feb 3, 2004)
coool spherage!...i love how you contrast the colors!
jasmin (Mar 6, 2004)
very good ,keep doing what you are doing this is great you are the master Nellyvette
drawn in 1 hour 26 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
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Krystiana (Feb 28, 2004)
Grand Beach in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
6 comments – latest 4:
ToraNeko (Feb 28, 2004)
Ooooo I like how the bolt is purple, and the waves are awsome n.n
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Feb 29, 2004)
This is very nice... it really has a stormy feeling to it, good choice of colors.
Gigandas (Mar 5, 2004)
Nice landscape here.I like the colors XD.
ProjectZeppher (Mar 6, 2004)
nice... i wish i could do landscapes...
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Public Boards/Beginner 
Minitsaru (Feb 28, 2004)
i wanted to try drawing from life, and whats better than drawing the first stuffed animal you ever got on the very day you where born?
i really dont kno how to detail things highly and i also need space to do a maskot pic... sry pengui *tear* (yea i aint origional with names)
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marcello (Feb 29, 2004)
I do not remember what I got on the day I was born. Air, I suppose.
laurael (Mar 5, 2004)
...or a slap. This is sweet...I think I had a Winnie the Poo...
lilypad (edited Mar 7, 2004)
i got quite a few things...including a purple blanket that my mom is threatening to throw out...
great job with this. ^^ he looks so cuddly!
laurel:yes, cello probably did. hehe.
Deformed (Mar 6, 2004)
I got a little monigram pillow with my name on It and birth date. I still love it.
drawn in 16 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
HJ (Feb 29, 2004)
This is my half of an art trade thingy. This is my friend, Zui's character, Rikku in her Buu outfit. I did her hands like that because thats kinda how she draws them. This is the reference: http://www.deviantart.com/view/5480438/ & The swirly noodles are ramen. The timer is off. (again) I did a bunch o' stuff inbetween.
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ToraNeko (Feb 29, 2004)
Oie! I love Ramen! *is currently eating Ichiban with Hashi* The wrist are two pinched in, like hourglasses, and the ramen looks like ite glued to the fork But I like the eyes, like glass orbs, and the way the Buu Outfit was modified for a girl, Good!
HJ (Mar 5, 2004)
Thanks, ToraNeko! Long live ramen! Lol. First time drawing ramen so I'm not too good with forks & noodley subjects. :D
drawn in 2 hours 46 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
hannah_banana_2002 (Feb 29, 2004)
I had to draw a picture of a cell...
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davincipoppalag (Feb 29, 2004)
kinda looks like breakfast too.. fried egg bacon..and um.. some other stuff lol
oversoul_trump (Feb 29, 2004)
Wow, this reminds me of my science project :P well, you almost got it all right, but somestuff is a little off, but it's not science class so oh well!
Fin_beast (Mar 2, 2004)
I see the Endoplasmic Reticulum!
strangeoid (Mar 4, 2004)
My-toe-chondria. ^___^ Which one is the golgi apparatus? Nice, shiny nucleolus.
drawn in 8 min with PaintBBS
PinkuEspeon (Mar 4, 2004)
Well... I gave Lascaux a chance... well... I tried to draw a picture of myself... and a fox spirit... didn't work out... it looks sooo crappy!!
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dixielandcutie (Mar 4, 2004)
i honestly dont understand why everyone has such a big problem with lascaux...haha, as a matter of fact, thats the only one i can figure out how to use decently...ok yea. anyway. its not bad there. maybe a little more shading. but nice!
marcello (Mar 4, 2004)
they're just intellectually challenged, I guess.
PinkuEspeon (Mar 4, 2004)
>: | Marcello... I usually use Shi-Painter...
ToraNeko (Mar 4, 2004)
No worries Espeon, I think Marcello is just a little sore that people keep talking about how hard to use it is. Persnally, I like the ups and dows of Both Programs n.n The way you can ajust the darkness with the bar at the bottom kept me amused for hours! *ahem* but anyway I like the proportioning on this one! Alot more accurate then some other ones, and I like the positiong to!
drawn in 36 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
 
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