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Trying a bit more than a head this time since I have all this canvas space in the advanced section. I'm just going to try to copy the photo directly this time as closely as possible.
http://www.kristiaknowles.net/images/gallery/fitness/fit2.jpg

I'm not sure I'll get anywhere. Thanks all for the encouragement.

[Edit] This is the opposite of what I'm striving to do artistically as my goal is to draw more loosely from references (using information from the reference to make a completely different picture, not drawing the reference) and ultimately without needing references at all, but I wanted to try a shot at being unpainterly and more photorealistic: the antethesis of what I've been trying to do. To get the line drawing and major landmarks as accurately as possible, I initially started with a grid for the line drawing. This allowed me to shade and color more loosely without worrying about correcting inaccuracies from the previous stages. I don't think I quite got there as I still got lazy on the shading and didn't quite interpret the values correctly. It looks correct sized down, but not up close.

28 comments – latest 4:

Zack (Apr 5, 2006)

You might find it an interesting exercise to take a ref and try drawing it at a different angle. As soon as I have more free time I intend to make a number of drawings that are loosely referenced like that; maybe they have the same angle but different lighting, or they have different shading styles, etc. Personally, I see loose references as training wheels and strict references as crutches, but that's in terms of my own artistic goals and not a criticism of other artists here. In light of your goals, I'd say dropping the grid system is probably a good idea.

comd (edited Apr 5, 2006)

Modifying angles, lighting, or the original 3D form of the reference is the kind of stuff I'd like to ultimately do when using references. Just anything that demands the 3D form is understood so that it could be used to produce other 3D forms is what would benefit me most. I tend to be more 2D-oriented when copying photos regardless of whether I'm using measuring devices or just freehanding, and that's useful for copying 2D images, but not for inventing 3D ones. I tend to ask questions like, "what's the 2D shape of this highlight? How does it relate vertically and horizontally to this other mark?" Rather than, "what's the 3D form of this figure"? If I understood the 3D form, then I could invent my own highlights without using the precise shapes in the photograph.

I pretty much knew this picture wasn't what I should have been doing when I started on it based on my goals, regardless of the grid (though the grid made it that much worse). I set out only to draw the reference as accurately as possible and nothing more. In that sense, it's one of my biggest failures since that's the last thing I want to be doing in the future as I progress. I didn't even try to experiment with painterly techniques - I was trying to be as unpainterly as possible in this one so that it would look just like a photo. Generally I get the most comments about the painterly aspects of my works when working from photos, but this time I really wanted to try not being painterly (I tend to be painterly for economical purposes, not intentionally). I didn't even really achieve the photorealism I intended to achieve despite the use of the grid for the line drawing, so I didn't even succeed in that respect. While it's completely against my personal goals, I still admire the artists on here who can make their paintings look just like a photograph. I was hoping to achieve it here, but I think I deviated too much in the shading and still relied too much on lines which gave that sort of cartoony effect in places.

frootcake (Apr 6, 2006)

omg biggest posts ever. great pic and i've been a victim of the grid in the past. when the masters of the past were working on frescoes - they couldn't draw straight from life, so they did their preliminary drawing and they would grid that whole wall up before doing some of the greatest paintings ever made, theres no shame :):)

HunterKiller_ (Apr 7, 2006)

Mmm... (damn you essay writters.)

Public Boards/Intermediate

Sky Blood

patienceisoverrated (Apr 1, 2006)

I had PLANS for this...

unfortunately, they didn't work out.

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101_Torchic_101 (Apr 5, 2006)

(0,0) Woah, this is cool. When I first saw this, I had to comment..Cool clouds, the skeleton-guys are awesome =D

mikron (Apr 5, 2006)

This is very uinque and well done. :)

patienceisoverrated (Apr 5, 2006)

thanks y'all :)

Childlike_Vampire (Apr 7, 2006)

This is really awesome, a great refreshing combonation on the eyes. Really gives the feel of outdoors, and the comicy goodness on the bottom rocks. Great drawing!!

Zo, toch nog een Nederlandse titel. :)

Roytje (Apr 1, 2006)

The background is finished.. :)

13 comments – latest 4:

Zack (Apr 1, 2006)

Great work! Yes!

HunterKiller_ (Apr 1, 2006)

Wow, it's so dreamy, relaxing. <=]

Roytje (Apr 2, 2006)

hi1022: So, after all a Dutch title. :)
And thx for the lovely comments!

~GSP~ (Apr 6, 2006)

i like them cloud castles your are truely gifted

Public Boards/Advanced

almost Al...

zep (Jun 14, 2005)

or...sad Al

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two-na (Jun 15, 2005)

fav

zep (Jun 16, 2005)

thanks...Albert was quite a great man...

IkariIreuL (Jun 16, 2005)

Ty854: I like of that music when you spank the monkey over 200 mph [ Not sure :P ] :)

matt104w (Apr 5, 2006)

i prefer stephen hawking over einstein but awsome drawing

Public Boards/Beginner

OMG O_O

alichanotaku (Jan 3, 2006)

It's ICE CREAM. -smirk-

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22darkangel22 (Jan 19, 2006)

... :)

BlitzCloud (Jan 19, 2006)

it can still be yogurt being white.

kiwi-chan (Apr 5, 2006)

gee ali-chan, I didn't know you could be pervy...O.o

alichanotaku (Apr 5, 2006)

it's a skeel

Public Boards/Intermediate

Rostro pancronico, emergiendo desde las profundidades del olvido

Deino (Apr 4, 2006)

"Pancronic face, emerging from the deepness of forgotten times"

7 comments – latest 4:

Sweetcell (Apr 4, 2006)

Oh this is beautiful, awesome stunning. Bravo Deino. It's very Giegeresque, one of my fave artists.

davincipoppalag (Apr 4, 2006)

Put me in the fan column, too Deino. The first impression was of one of those grotesque deep-see dwellers. Really really good.

HunterKiller_ (Apr 4, 2006)

Fantastic fish/face. Nice description, too.

comd (Apr 5, 2006)

That's awesome. I would love to be able to create creatures like this.

Main Forums/The Post Board

my website is done

Shanghai (Mar 31, 2006)

yes, I have been awake for the past 29 hours and I still have another 6-7 to go before I can rest, but my site is ready for my gallery show tonight. in the future I'll add more and expand it, but for now it has enough content to satisfy my expectations for this show. Now I need to get ready and go down there to setup things before the show starts. Notice how many of my artworks on there were made in lasqaux~ *mentions*

21 comments

Public Boards/Intermediate

Fart socket

Axil62 (Mar 27, 2006)

It's my new invention. You just walk right up and fart in it.

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Ceido (Mar 28, 2006)

I wouldn't mind one of these actually, when are they going to be in production?

Axil62 (Mar 28, 2006)

Well I'd like to get them into production before Dinco De Mayo this year but I'm going to need investors. Ya got $1500?

Sweetcell (Mar 29, 2006)

LOL the fartinator. Actually this would solve some smelly problems in the house.