forumsnewsok wtf.
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marcello (Mar 13, 2005)
some fuckers hacked the server.
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Kenshin (Mar 13, 2005)
Yeah... I noticed.. o_o that scared me so bad.
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Gigandas (Mar 13, 2005)
I saw something about that when going to my memos.It's in Spanish or somethin too.....what the hell?
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mazi (Mar 13, 2005)
eeh? what happened?
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ILoveKenshin (Mar 13, 2005)
What the heck was that about? Spanish racism, or something? o_o
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concannon (Mar 13, 2005)
Becca did some research. She says "Okay, as far as I can tell, H4ck3rsBr Group is pretty well known and probably based in Brazil. And they've done a bunch of pretty big sites before."

So, it wasn't Spanish; I tried a babelfish translation on it, no good. Then Becca gave me that, and I went "Oh, Portuguese."

This is the (sloppy) translation of the page they had up:

WHERE VC KEEP ITS RACISM? Full racism in s?lo XXI? Since I abolished? of the slavery we search the end of racism, where we have a society without distin? nor it discriminates? of the people for the etnia, more what voc?cha of the system of quotas for blacks in university? Voc? it finds that when adhering to this est?endo practised a racism act? Therefore to ask for to share of princ?o that s?inferiores to the others for being black? Or either, in this modern world where we live exists act of bigger racism that ado? of systems of quotas? E ai in the return that one 1? question, and voc?ONDE GUARD ITS RACISM? Full racism in s?lo XXI? Since I abolished? of the slavery we search the end of racism, where we have a society without distin? nor it discriminates? of the people for the etnia, more what voc?cha of the system of quotas for blacks in university? Voc? it finds that when adhering to this est?endo practised a racism act? Therefore to ask for to share of princ?o that s?inferiores to the others for being black? Or either, in this modern world where we live exists act of bigger racism that ado? of systems of quotas?
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Shelonian (Mar 13, 2005)
Yes, scary. But thank God, you were here to fix it. You the man!
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marcello (Mar 13, 2005)
we're not out of the water yet, the server is still hacked and I'm trying to figure out a way to fix whatever.
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Shelonian (Mar 13, 2005)
Wish I could help. Damn jerks!
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ArchMageZeratuL (edited Mar 13, 2005)
OK, let me explain what that hack was about...

It was a brazilian hacker group fighting for a somewhat decent cause. A few years ago, the government implemented a quota system at public universities for students who are black, indian, or descendent of one. 20% of all places in universities should be reserved for those students.

I don't know what they were smoking, but they claim that this is because those have little chance to study, contributing to their discrimination and poverty. But that's just bullshit. If you ask me, this is one of the most racist laws ever passed, it says that those are too stupid to get in college, the way I see it. And that's the same that the hacker group said.

As a little background information, public colleges are the best in Brazil, and they're really hard to get into. You take a very hard test (called "vestibular"), and highest scorers get in.

As a side note, I study at USP (Universidade de São Paulo, the most important public university in Brazil). USP was the only public university that refused to abide by the quota system. They threatened to close the gates of all campi if they were forced into it. No real agreement was reached yet as far as I know. Instead, the principal implemented a free training course for the "Vestibular" for students who can't afford studying at a good private high school. Which is a much more logical system, if you ask me.
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ILoveKenshin (Mar 13, 2005)
But why would they want to hack 2draw?
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ArchMageZeratuL (edited Mar 13, 2005)
They hacked several community sites around the world, following a known vulnerability. 2draw just happened to be one of them.

Here's my translation of the page that was up:


Where do you keep your racism?

Racism in the twenty-first century itself?

Ever since the slavery was abolished, we sought the end of racism, where we can have a society without distinction of people by their ethnics, but what do you think of the quota system for black people in universities? Don't you think that those who abide by it are themselves practicing an act of racism? For asking for a quota is based on the idea that they are inferior for being black? In other worlds, in this moden world where we live, is there an act of racism bigger than the quota system?

Thus we are back to that first question... and where do you keep your racism?
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Kenshin (Mar 13, 2005)
Did they do it to be noticed or something...?
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Ty854 (Mar 13, 2005)
I think they did it not to be noticed....?
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Zack (Mar 13, 2005)
What stupid jerks. It's not all that hard to get attention on 2draw in the first place. All they're accomplishing is the discrediting of their cause. It's not like I (or most people here, for that matter) can do a damn thing about it anyway.
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Nyuusen (Mar 13, 2005)
Yeah, I had my friend translate it to get it right...

Acutally it's more than one language, or maybe just very bad portuguese. Because my friend tried spanish (she is spanish) and could understand a bit of it. There was some italian there too

In any case...they can go screw themselves. They don't need to hack a site to support a cause like that. No one cares or/and can't do anything.
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DinoFlorist (Mar 13, 2005)
Are they asserting that the quota system is racist because it insinuates that black and indian people are too dumb to make it on their own merits? If so, it sounds a lot like affirmative action here in the US, which is infurating to many on both sides of the issue, but also has a lot of support.

I am down with a little righteous political protest, but ruining innocent people's property or person is not cool, and makes them the enemy! Marcello should hack them back!
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Noremac (Mar 13, 2005)
i understand most of this... but i disagree with any hateful feelings toward them, i mean they are jsut trying to be heard. i agree, it was wrong to hack this site. but we need to understand that they meant in it no harm only to carry a message, i cant help but think that maybe we are the ones who are doing wrong by not bringing justice to the world. i mean we are the youth of the planet and we can change anything. im sorry if this comes across as a stupid point but i mean, we cannot hate them for doing this, i think we should all embrace the message and really think about it, i mean only love can really conquer hate right?
 
flopsymopsy (Mar 13, 2005)
Sadly, I'm no longer one of the youth of the planet ... Hacking sites like this one will achieve nothing, apart from giving Marcello work and a headache. Marcello has no power or influence over the protesters' cause and whatever its merits, there must be more suitable targets; they picked this one because they could, not because they should.
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Zack (Mar 13, 2005)
My point was that they didn't even need to hack the site. We have an open forum, no one ever told them they couldn't present their case. But they chose to be dickheads about it.
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Nyuusen (edited Mar 14, 2005)
Noremac... personally, I don't care enough to go to Brazil and do anything about this. So, I guess they haven't been heard. Sucks for them, they wasted half an hour of their lives.
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ArchMageZeratuL (Mar 13, 2005)
Nyuusen, it's Brazil, not Bulgaria, and that's not spanish nor italian, it's portuguese. :P
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mazi (Mar 13, 2005)
wow. thats stupid of 'em. im pretty sure after a week nobody (except marcello) will remember it. why not hack a more prominent site if youre gunna hack one for political/attention-getting purposes.. not that i dont love 2draw to death, but its not THAT popular. only a couple hundred active users id bet. livejournal has 2630704 active (as of when i posted this).
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Pantera (Mar 13, 2005)
That sucks. I guess that is the reason I could not get in to draw? Lets hope Marcello can put an end to it, and do you know if it was someone that draws here? if it was kick him/her out.
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zep (Mar 13, 2005)
ok wtf...life over nets....
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StrawberryYamichan (Mar 13, 2005)
wtf. i still don't understand why they hacked 2draw
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EverDream (Mar 13, 2005)
???

Okay. Odd.
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friend (Mar 14, 2005)
WHat did they do? i don't see anything different
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method3 (Mar 14, 2005)
Fuck hackers. Invalidate your message and piss a few hundred people off. This is the NET for christs sake, it's not like it's impossible to get your message out through normal channels, give me a fucking break.
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Kilala (Mar 14, 2005)
I'm scared! >~<
 
sal (Mar 14, 2005)
least everythings still in one piece, prob not what u wanna hear, but could of been alot worse...
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Nightmare (Mar 14, 2005)
Right-O O:>
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Kilala (Mar 14, 2005)
Oh! Will it happen again?! >~< x 2 = me
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Kloxboy (Mar 14, 2005)
That sucks, maybe it was someone from Fearsome Oekaki. Probably far from true but you can go ahead and spread the rumor.
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Anna (edited Mar 14, 2005)
lol!!
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sincity (Mar 14, 2005)
Wow. Missed alot since I 've been away. Sorry to hear 2draw has been hacked. That sucks BIG TIME!!!!!
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Destervetha (Mar 15, 2005)
Yes...this sucks hugely. Personally I agree wholeheartedly with their views...but by doing this, they suck. They sucktheysucktheysucktheysuck! Arrgh! Morons! *rantrantrantrantrant*
-cough-
Anyway...did they delete anything or just...I don't know, hijack the front page? What did they actually DO?
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cheetos (Mar 24, 2005)
No hackers are going to take over the computers!!!!*screams* Did someone really actually hack in? why would they want to do that? Why don't they just join the websight?
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Silver_Note (Mar 25, 2005)
Daaaaang...I have been gone a long time I guess! Wow. I can't believe that they hacked 2draw!
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Deformed (Mar 26, 2005)
Uh. Cheetos... Read the goddamn posts and you just might find out. Jeezum crows.
Oh and I'll tell you a little secret...... That's not how hacking works!
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firefight (edited Mar 27, 2005)
what kind of server was it a file or gaming ? was it locked to ip intersecting by linux lines? i know this is prob what u people want to hear but if you cut off the server for a little bit your lil buddys may loose you trace as long as they havent found you ip adress your fine.
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marcello (Mar 27, 2005)
please learn how to spell. also learn how to not be stupid.
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sincity (Mar 28, 2005)
...now if we just had some nice taters.......:}>
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firefight (Mar 28, 2005)
your telling me to not be stupid!!!!! if you dont beleave me look up linux software, the one with a little penguin as a symbol. also if you dont believe me look up zapro virus and hacker protection software its the reverse affect to find your hackers by gps. trust me i know a computer from the inside out. Also it probably wasnt wise to stor the passwords unencripted.
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Zack (Mar 28, 2005)
If you seek enlightenment, ask yourself these questions:

1. Who created, owns, and runs this website, and therefore must be fairly adept at computers? (hint: the url to this site is http://cellosoft.com/2draw)
2. Who started this forum thread?
3. How blatantly obvious are the answers to the first two questions?
4. What relevance does this picture have to your posts?
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staci (Mar 28, 2005)
lolz <(^_^)>
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firefight (Mar 28, 2005)
i know im not stupid and im not saying hes stupid i was offering some advice, my father runs servers for banks, i learn alot from him so i thought id put in my input, this is a forum if im not mastaken.
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marcello (Mar 28, 2005)
I'm sorry, but the way you talk gives me the impression you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about other than random bits of information you may have heard second hand but didn't comprehend.
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concannon (Mar 28, 2005)
I love you Zack. *laughing*
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firefight (Mar 29, 2005)
ok thats your opinion but im not going to let someone put me down like that. ok you have a new server whats it run xeon, g5 mac, its defenetly not centrino because thats for laptops. your server probably is set up more for memory and less for graphics being that it has to comprehend all the pictures and the screennames. phlack has aplication that allows you to see all other systems looking at the contents of your server, with this you can also block certain types of systems from using your server. this is defenatly helpful if your hacker is using a computer with a linux software as his operating system. im sorry from now ill keep my mouth shut but i cant accept that someone thinks i dont know what im talking about.
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marcello (Mar 29, 2005)
The more you say, the more I realize you have no fucking clue. Heh. I'd like to think I'm a pretty good judge of character.
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Kasha (edited Mar 29, 2005)
maybe somethings are better left unsaid
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plasma_ooganator (Mar 30, 2005)
dude hes my friend he knows what hes talking about he helps the school out alot
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Nightmare (Mar 30, 2005)
And they still keep on going.

 
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