who was it who did the vote or die campaign? he’s angry because bush won. 'said something about how he didn’t want those rotten trailer trash voting republican lol. yay for cloxboy!
I've said this so many times already in the last few days...here it is again:
Do any of you think that when Republicans take office that all the Democrats and Kerry voters should just stop caring, stop voicing our opinions? WELL FUCK THAT!!!
I'm not just a Democrat, it's not just a label, it's the a political group who's views and actions best coincide with my mine. These views and actions determine our way of life in America. If you didn't know this, it's time to wake the fuck up!
"Get over yourself, and this whole Bush-Sucks deal." You might as well say "Stop caring about your way of life", that was a lame and ignorant statement you made Shmoopy.
Oh, I forgot!!! Terribly sorry. I forgot that I was an uninformed, stupid, uneducated, illiterate Republican from a small town. I forgot that I was the scum of the earth, equal to a dog that eats its own shit. I apologize. Thanks for reminding me of my place in the pyramid of social status.
um... i'm not democratic or republican or anything but i feel sad when you guys put the prez down like this. i'm not saying you shouldn't say what you think... but maybe you could be a little less... mean. i don't like KERRY but i don't run around saying he sucks.
Oh Shmoopy....you're funny. I don't hate you, I don't think you're stupid, I just think you're misinformed. I'm not someone who would tell you "Bush Sucks" and leave it at that, it's people like that who need to wise up, but that goes for people who say "Kerry Sucks" too. There are too many dispassionate drones and not enough people who truly understand and believe in their political views.
Edit: BTW, who said Bush sucks? I never said it, directly anyway.
Directly being the key-word in your statement. >> I guess we've reached a... what do they call them... stand-still in our argument. I have my views. You have yours. I take offense to your many works degrading Republicans and Bush etcetera. I suppose I should ignore it, but then I feel like I'm not sticking up for my opinions.
I'm not misinformed, however, so don't tell me that I am. :)
What's funny is I never said I hated anyone, you're all fueling your own fire. Either way, I'm going to have a drink and some chicken. And Shmoopy, if you voted for Bush, you are misinformed, in mine and many other's opinions.
This is ridiculous for two reasons.
1) Democrats say Republicans are uninformed.
2) Republicans say Democrats are uninformed.
So, you're never going to know who's really wrong here. Let's all trust the Anarchists with this decision and the political future of America.
Edit: Emma, I would agree, but then I'd be fueling a fire! God knows we have enough fires in this world.
But, I'm something of a pyromaniac. Millions of Americans are uninformed on their political issues today. Millions! Can you believe it? I can't. I think many of those millions have reasons for voting for Bush. Many of those many are very intelligent. Governors etc. voted for George Bush. How can a Governor be uninformed on politics?
I just wish there were runoff elections so we could get a more accurate democratic representation of the population here, that way it wouldn't be this winner take-all crap. I do greatly dislike Bush now, didn't mind him before the Iraq War, and I wouldn't mind a Republican president...that is if the Republican was Guiliani or McCain. Now I could live with those two. But you know what this means now that Kerry lost?...........that's right.....Clinton/Clinton 08, ahhhh!
I agree with both Democrates for somethings and Repubilcans for other things, I mostly agree more with republicans. I disagree with 3/8 of what Kerry says and I disagree with 3/8 of what Bush says. But I disagree with Kerry on more Improtant things, and Plus I really don't like John Edwards. I don't Hate Bush or Kerry, Iam Just sad that theres not a Better choice.
Personally I hate them both equally.
I also like how you treat a discussion, over the internet, on an art site, as being a good vehicle for changing the ideas of another. So far you're both just spouting VIEWS and not backing them up.
ALL americans are misinformed, not just democrats, not just republicans. Lighten up, all y'alls. It's 2DRAW, fer cryin' out loud, we come here to get AWAY from life.
Here is a view for you Destervetha:
For you to say "I hate them equally" is a very weak stance and I doubt you could support it with any valid reasoning. I can't give you much credit for using the word hate either, generally I try not to hate either of them. You had to top it off with "All Americans are misinformed", that's true but you used it in a defeatist statement which leads me to believe you have no backbone. And seaanemone saying "Yeah!!" just proves to me what a minion she is.
I dotn liek kerry. i dotn hate kerry supporters. but i do hate the people that say they hate bush because of the war in iraq. Look at the situation this way. you are the president of the united states of course all the congress peopel are whoever they are will support any decision that the president makes as long as its goign good. but as soon as somethign goes wrong . they all denie ever supporting any of those decisions when they really did. the truth is anyone can make george bush look like a bad president but dont hate the president hate the system . John kerry was for the war in iraq. until politics said the war was bad. anyone could have ran aginst george bush and get as many votes as kerry did because its easy to make a president look bad especially sence were at war. being president is alot of pressure.as soon as something goes wrong everyone puts the blame on him. what about the people that supported him to begin with ?
It almost sounds like you're saying we shouldn't criticize the President. The President has to hold some degree of accountability for the actions taken during his administration. They'll jump to take credit for the good things that happen but you can't just brush off the bad and just avoid the blame when things go wrong. And it really doesn't matter what Congress thinks. They did give the President the authorization for the use of force, they did not vote for the war, and I think giving the authorization is the right thing as a political tool. Ultimately the decision for the war came down to the President...and he is the leader of this country. He holds accountability for the actions and consequences and he will share the blame and the successes that will happen during the war.
"They'll jump to take credit for the good things that happen but you can't just brush off the bad and just avoid the blame when things go wrong." thats kinda the point i was making, but not abotu the president but congress , the cabinet, his advisers or whoever. I wasnt sayign that the president shouldnt take accountability. I was saying that the president has to take accountability . so like eevryone can be liek yeah lets go to war with iraq , but as sosn as we go to war and peopel start dying everyone will blame the president for going to war. Im not sayign we shouldnt criticize the President , in fact there is nothing wrong with criticizing the president. I was just implying how easy it is for anyone to come up and make the president look bad. So you shouldn't just vote on the person that is making him look bad. That is why I said I hate people that hate Bush just because of the War. Why try being president you think you can do better ? I definantly do not think Edwards and Kerry can.
Well, Dagan, Bush choosing to go to war was one of the mistakes. The basis of reasoning many people use for not liking Kerry is so dense and unfounded. Many people (in both parties) have developed a blind allegiance to the general agenda of their party and they have no idea what they're actually a part of. It's scary that so many people base their political persuasions on nonpolitical issues. I once heard a political analyst on TV say "Bush won because he's like the head quarterback in high school, everyone likes him". That's a scary analogy because there is a fine line between a popularity contest and a presidential election.
Just on a side note, I didn't like Bush back in 2000, I never agreed with the war, even before it happened—I never thought we should be going to war in the first place. Now how does that affect what you're saying? There were quite a few people who protested this war before it started. We're not just critisizing after the fact, we saw the problem before it happened. =P
Okay, know what? I think it's stupid to criticize someone else solely based on their political views. Democrats shouldn't view Republicans as "evil people that want to destroy our nation and everything it stands for", and Republicans shouldn't view Democrats as "evil people disturbing and changing our country". Democrats shouldn't say Republicans are always misinformed. True, some are, but they have their views. Most Republicans agree with Bush, that's why they're Republicans. If you supported the losing party/candidate, that's just too bad. This is democracy.
(Although this is an old drawing):
Wait a sec, it may be ignorant to say stuff like "get over this whole deal," but isn't it just as ignorant to tell people they are misinformed just cause they don't see it like you do? I mean if that's the case here, let's all go around telling each other we are all misinformed if we don't think exactly alike about everything. Heh...
Gig: I think the republican agenda is backed by misinformed information and propaganda, I stand by what I said. I think people who voted for Bush are misinformed. It doesn't mean all those people are completely misinformed, some of them probably know that Bush and the agenda of his cabinet would falter but if they benefit from his presidency, they're probably going to vote for him anyway. It's like me voting for Kerry, he's not everything I want in a candidate but he best represents my political beliefs and goals, so I voted for him.
I thought it was funny when Bush said before the G8 Summit something on the lines of "I can't wait to go to Scotland because my ancestors are from Ireland." HAHA!! Stupid! I'm with you on this one Cloxboy, I'm anti-bush too, as well as Anti-blair. this picture rawks!
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Get over yourself, and this whole Bush-Sucks deal.
Do any of you think that when Republicans take office that all the Democrats and Kerry voters should just stop caring, stop voicing our opinions? WELL FUCK THAT!!!
I'm not just a Democrat, it's not just a label, it's the a political group who's views and actions best coincide with my mine. These views and actions determine our way of life in America. If you didn't know this, it's time to wake the fuck up!
"Get over yourself, and this whole Bush-Sucks deal." You might as well say "Stop caring about your way of life", that was a lame and ignorant statement you made Shmoopy.
Edit: BTW, who said Bush sucks? I never said it, directly anyway.
I'm not misinformed, however, so don't tell me that I am. :)
1) Democrats say Republicans are uninformed.
2) Republicans say Democrats are uninformed.
So, you're never going to know who's really wrong here. Let's all trust the Anarchists with this decision and the political future of America.
Edit: Emma, I would agree, but then I'd be fueling a fire! God knows we have enough fires in this world.
But, I'm something of a pyromaniac. Millions of Americans are uninformed on their political issues today. Millions! Can you believe it? I can't. I think many of those millions have reasons for voting for Bush. Many of those many are very intelligent. Governors etc. voted for George Bush. How can a Governor be uninformed on politics?
I also like how you treat a discussion, over the internet, on an art site, as being a good vehicle for changing the ideas of another. So far you're both just spouting VIEWS and not backing them up.
ALL americans are misinformed, not just democrats, not just republicans. Lighten up, all y'alls. It's 2DRAW, fer cryin' out loud, we come here to get AWAY from life.
For you to say "I hate them equally" is a very weak stance and I doubt you could support it with any valid reasoning. I can't give you much credit for using the word hate either, generally I try not to hate either of them. You had to top it off with "All Americans are misinformed", that's true but you used it in a defeatist statement which leads me to believe you have no backbone. And seaanemone saying "Yeah!!" just proves to me what a minion she is.
or slow down and look at what you're typing
Wait a sec, it may be ignorant to say stuff like "get over this whole deal," but isn't it just as ignorant to tell people they are misinformed just cause they don't see it like you do? I mean if that's the case here, let's all go around telling each other we are all misinformed if we don't think exactly alike about everything. Heh...
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