I'm trying to do an advanced draw.. I think I'm trying too hard though. It's taking me forever and I'm not even done yet.. it needs more work on the wall, steps and the lower foot, I'll try to finish soon though.
I've stared at it so long I don't even know if it's any good or not and I think I made her look older than the reference :|
Bette, your pictures just keep getting better and better. This is just stunning. The hands and feet are impeccable. I think her hair is also outstanding. I love the tiny sheen on the top. I do not think she looks too old. Her face is timeless. Yes, I can see the bg needs a little touching up, but would be fine with just some TLC. Her clothing is also done very nicely. Bravo on this one Bette, as if any of your draws aren't five star knock outs.
Very beautiful! Her expression is priceless, I wouldn't worry so about the foot Bette, the focal point is all about the upper body, and your rendering has captured the viewer's attention perfectly! Excellent work!
thank you all so much for such great comments! you truly make all the hours I spent on it, worth it :)
just a few more changes and touch- ups and I'll be done.
thanks flubbles, if you could point out the things that need improving, it would help me. I'm not done yet, so maybe I can fix them or at least make them better.
and thanks tony, I'm happy you like it :)
You really took your time to finish this, I love it! It is impossible to pinpoint what is best about it, I must say I really like the stone background and her hair. As well as her face...
yes, I did clearly use a reference marcello. I put the artist's name William-Adolphe Bouguereau in the title and I also mentioned in V12 that I thought I made her face older than the ref .. I didn't post the link to the ref but I thought it was easy enough to find it if anyone cared to google the artist's name and the title.
I really wasn't trying to make it seem that this picture was my own idea at all and I'm sorry if it ever appeared that way.
Marcellos got a thing about not using references.The thing is people who say they dont use references are bullshitters because they use references for all types of things, they just scramble all there references together to make there own image.
are you saying that he doesn't like us using references at all? or he just wants us to always post the ref link? did you guys use a ref on this drawing? http://2draw.net/view/110928/ if so, I don't see one posted .. so why do I get called out on a drawing that I did mention that I used a ref on ?
HA! I don't know why I said Flubbs, Sorry about that. :)
I think we've ha this discussion before. Don't think twice about it. You were clear that it was from a ref.
I use refs all the time. I stay away from copying a painting, but that's just me. I like finding a photo or taking one myself. Sometimes not, but whatever. It's not like you were trying to take credit for the original.
It was clear enough you used one. Personally I don't understand the aversion against using a reference, specifically if you are trying to improve yourself. Give or take a troll or two, but isn't that what we all want here?
I think it was pretty clear you used a ref, that paintings quite well known.Marcello was just kidding around.He has a point though,he can do or say whatever he likes on his own site.
Actually, I did and I debated for a second whether or not I should... but come on, this was perfect. And hey, I really do appreciate the effort. Thank you.
Now I have to stop using dots and question marks too???? "lol"!! Where did all of you people go to school?? Nooo Dot.....english is my first language......I don't have a second language...."lol"! Seriously.....when I put quotation marks around a certain word.....I'm just trying to put some "empathis" on that word.....I don't know if I spelled that word right or not......I try to emphasize a word....to make it stand out. I've seen a lot of words that had quotation marks around them....and it wasn't implying sarcasm. I don't understand how quotation marks can imply sarcasm. Anyways......now I'm more confused than ever...."lolzzz"...:P
Maybe sarcasm isn't the best description. It's more like whatever word you're putting them around (unless you're actually quoting someone) gives the reader the impression that the word with the quotation marks around it has an implied alternative meaning. Lets say that everyone knows that when I say "Let's step into my office." It really means "Let's step into the bathroom." Because I like to call it my office and people know that. Then when someone asks where I am and I happen to be in the bathroom, they might say "Oh, he's in his "office." using air quotes when they say the word office. See we all know it's the bathroom but I like to call it an office.
Well......your explanation here doesn't really clarify anything. You see.....most people (including me)....do not know that you refer to your bathroom as being your office......nobody really knows that, except you.....haha. Anyways...I don't think we should be cluttering up "bette davis eyes" space here, with this meaningless discussion...."lol"! I really do think this draw is a "showcase" draw....very beautiful pic. :)
Sorry to break a bubble, but I do understand the explanation.
Hmm, how to make it understand. Oh wait I have it. When I read your sentence : I really do think this draw is a "showcase" draw. I could think that you really don't think it is a showcase drawing. But to opposite, that it belongs in a waste paper basket.
The other use of quotation marks is to quote (repeat) what somebody else said, like in a storybook:
Little Tommy said: "Oh mommy, let's go to the fairground!".
Quote-quotation mark, get it? ;)
Fire: Do you see where it says "Lets say that everyone knows that when I say "Let's step into my office." It really means "Let's step into the bathroom."? That the same as saying let's pretend, for this example, that everyone knows that when I say "Let's step into my office." It really means "Let's step into the bathroom. So in the example, everyone does know.
Axil, I thought that was a great explanation. Notice, I didn't say it was a "great" explanation, which would have meant it wasn't a great explanation at all.
Well.....when I put quotation marks around the word showcase.....I was merely trying to emphasize that word.....to make it stand out....because I really do believe that this is a showcase draw. Axil......you just confuse the issue even more.....you have a way of talking around everything.....making it even more difficult to try and figure out what you're saying. Anyways.....I'm trying to limit my use of quotation marks.....not because of anything you might say axil.....I'm only doing it because of what the "boss" said......not because of what you say axil....hahahaaa! MissDj.....the boss didn't say I overused question marks or dots.....so I guess it's still safe for me to do that....."lol"! I think I'm just gonna "make like an ostrich".....and go bury my head in a "hole"....."lolzzzzz"!!! :P
I don't know where you went to school axil......but I did learn how to use proper punctuation in English class.....my english teacher would probably "expell" you from school, if she could see this discussion....haha! :P
Oh I see, you're trying to emphasize the word. Usually, though, when a word needs to be emphasized it is either bolded or italicized. Just like flubbles suggested. Or, you can even underline the word. Or, if it pleases you, you may even do some form of combination thereof. Also, what flubbles said above. :)
-I really like the *asterisks* idea too, I think you might like that fire. It's like a spin-off of the "quotations"
Please don't lose the will to live flubadub.....I would surely miss "sparring" with you....."lol"! I've seen that link before axil.....it's very confusing, but I did look thru all the misused quotes there. Dot.....I do like this link that you provided here.....I'm gonna try to figure out how to use it, to make letters either bold or italic.....thanks!! I've never used that niftymarkup tool before.....I hope I can learn to use it....."lol"! :)
Fire: If you want to italicize a word just type [ i ] before the word and [/ i ] after the word like this [ i ] italics [/ i ]. but do not put a space between the box brackets and the "i". Same thing if you want to bold a word, only instead of the letter "i" between box brackets it's the letter "b". [ b ] bold [/ b ]. (no spaces between the b and the brackets)
[ok/] I'm trying it to see if this word comes out italic. Let me try again....ok Yayyy! It worked! Thanks for explaining axil.....I'm gonna keep workin on it...."lol"! Now I'm wondering why my whole sentence came out italic???? :( Ok....I'm going to see what happens if I try to make this wordbold...
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I've stared at it so long I don't even know if it's any good or not and I think I made her look older than the reference :|
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just a few more changes and touch- ups and I'll be done.
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and thanks tony, I'm happy you like it :)
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I really wasn't trying to make it seem that this picture was my own idea at all and I'm sorry if it ever appeared that way.
and thank you everyone for all the nice comments.
I think we've ha this discussion before. Don't think twice about it. You were clear that it was from a ref.
I use refs all the time. I stay away from copying a painting, but that's just me. I like finding a photo or taking one myself. Sometimes not, but whatever. It's not like you were trying to take credit for the original.
The fact that you of all people are asking about it is ironic.
lol ;o)
Hmm, how to make it understand. Oh wait I have it. When I read your sentence : I really do think this draw is a "showcase" draw. I could think that you really don't think it is a showcase drawing. But to opposite, that it belongs in a waste paper basket.
The other use of quotation marks is to quote (repeat) what somebody else said, like in a storybook:
Little Tommy said: "Oh mommy, let's go to the fairground!".
Quote-quotation mark, get it? ;)
-I really like the *asterisks* idea too, I think you might like that fire. It's like a spin-off of the "quotations"
http://2draw.net/docs/site/nifty/
look at the basic formatting section.
Okay. So, what else can we do that's fun?
Oh my goodness, I figured it out! I feel so smart!
ps...Remember, abusing niftyToo markup can lead to losing points and being banned!