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The color in this one are really hitting me in the face, in a good way. The melting/dripping effect is cool too. I think this is one of my favorites of yours.

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comd (Apr 2, 2006)

Trying a bit more than a head this time since I have all this canvas space in the advanced section. I'm just going to try to copy the photo directly this time as closely as possible.
http://www.kristiaknowles.net/images/gallery/fitness/fit2.jpg

I'm not sure I'll get anywhere. Thanks all for the encouragement.

[Edit] This is the opposite of what I'm striving to do artistically as my goal is to draw more loosely from references (using information from the reference to make a completely different picture, not drawing the reference) and ultimately without needing references at all, but I wanted to try a shot at being unpainterly and more photorealistic: the antethesis of what I've been trying to do. To get the line drawing and major landmarks as accurately as possible, I initially started with a grid for the line drawing. This allowed me to shade and color more loosely without worrying about correcting inaccuracies from the previous stages. I don't think I quite got there as I still got lazy on the shading and didn't quite interpret the values correctly. It looks correct sized down, but not up close.

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Zack (Apr 5, 2006)

You might find it an interesting exercise to take a ref and try drawing it at a different angle. As soon as I have more free time I intend to make a number of drawings that are loosely referenced like that; maybe they have the same angle but different lighting, or they have different shading styles, etc. Personally, I see loose references as training wheels and strict references as crutches, but that's in terms of my own artistic goals and not a criticism of other artists here. In light of your goals, I'd say dropping the grid system is probably a good idea.

comd (edited Apr 5, 2006)

Modifying angles, lighting, or the original 3D form of the reference is the kind of stuff I'd like to ultimately do when using references. Just anything that demands the 3D form is understood so that it could be used to produce other 3D forms is what would benefit me most. I tend to be more 2D-oriented when copying photos regardless of whether I'm using measuring devices or just freehanding, and that's useful for copying 2D images, but not for inventing 3D ones. I tend to ask questions like, "what's the 2D shape of this highlight? How does it relate vertically and horizontally to this other mark?" Rather than, "what's the 3D form of this figure"? If I understood the 3D form, then I could invent my own highlights without using the precise shapes in the photograph.

I pretty much knew this picture wasn't what I should have been doing when I started on it based on my goals, regardless of the grid (though the grid made it that much worse). I set out only to draw the reference as accurately as possible and nothing more. In that sense, it's one of my biggest failures since that's the last thing I want to be doing in the future as I progress. I didn't even try to experiment with painterly techniques - I was trying to be as unpainterly as possible in this one so that it would look just like a photo. Generally I get the most comments about the painterly aspects of my works when working from photos, but this time I really wanted to try not being painterly (I tend to be painterly for economical purposes, not intentionally). I didn't even really achieve the photorealism I intended to achieve despite the use of the grid for the line drawing, so I didn't even succeed in that respect. While it's completely against my personal goals, I still admire the artists on here who can make their paintings look just like a photograph. I was hoping to achieve it here, but I think I deviated too much in the shading and still relied too much on lines which gave that sort of cartoony effect in places.

frootcake (Apr 6, 2006)

omg biggest posts ever. great pic and i've been a victim of the grid in the past. when the masters of the past were working on frescoes - they couldn't draw straight from life, so they did their preliminary drawing and they would grid that whole wall up before doing some of the greatest paintings ever made, theres no shame :):)

HunterKiller_ (Apr 7, 2006)

Mmm... (damn you essay writters.)

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solve (Apr 6, 2006)

Would anyone happen to have a picture of the glass mural that shatters in the movie "house on haunted hill"? Ive searched all over google, couldnt find one. Also, anyone talented in realism i have a request. Would anyone be willing to paint me?

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Self Portrait

Pseudonymous (Mar 7, 2006)

Me.

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davincipoppalag (Mar 17, 2006)

Clem! Get the shotgun..that there filly got the hydrophobe! She's foamin' at the mouf!" hehehee Definately finish it! it can wait till the homework is done..it isn't going anywhere!

Pseudonymous (Mar 20, 2006)

lol!

Pseudonymous (Apr 3, 2006)
drawn in 1 hour 9 min

Hmmm...Been staring at it too long. I still look like I"m smirking, but it's ok. :)

khendar (Apr 5, 2006)

Who else things she's allowed to smirk ? :P

Opium (Apr 1, 2006)

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patienceisoverrated (Apr 4, 2006)

I like the skin texture you added. I like his wrinkles, too.... people with wrinkles are intresting to draw. It's like, all their life experiences and feelings and whatever are written on their faces.

Sweetcell (Apr 4, 2006)

I think you can be a believer of both, and I am. Being Roman Catholic myself I learned about His creation and evolution, and it's funny it seemed easy for me to blend the two, meld it if you will. I believe He exists and created the Earth and everything around us, but I also believe in the Big Bang and evolution... hmmmm maybe that makes me a bit by-polar. That would explain things.

You can have Creation and Evolution, I believe it. Maybe someone just needs to find the middle where both fits.

Awesome piece Opium, love that hair. He does look tired.....

gerbear (Apr 5, 2006)

Excellent portrait! Very impressed with it.

Opium (Apr 5, 2006)

Thanks Marcello, patience, sweetcell, and gerbear! :)

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Richard Pryor

Axil62 (Dec 10, 2005)

1940 ~ 2005

Richard Pryor died today and it makes me sad

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TaCO (Dec 10, 2005)

"hear no Evil see no evil" is one of my favorite movies. I think that;s how the title goes.

Everyone should be made to watch all his movies.

LisaAnne (Dec 11, 2005)

I really was sad yesterday about his death, he brought people so much joy. I like the style you chose to do this in as well.

Alex-Cooper (Dec 11, 2005)

Fuck. That sucks. That's the second awesome person who's death i've heard of through 2draw. 2draw > Fox News

gerbear (Apr 4, 2006)

I just saw this...sent you my YouDraw Pryor I did when he died on another of your draws. Nice tribute.

blue grey

Axil62 (Feb 2, 2006)

I drew this today because I wanted to draw it and I wanted you to see that I drew it and I wanted you to see it and think something, not necessarily what I thought, because you think what you think.

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jayceepearl (Feb 3, 2006)

I think he's looking at the world through binoculars because he's too embarrassed of the spots all over his face to actually go out in public and face people up close.

gerbear (Apr 3, 2006)

Oddly, it made me think of this: http://www.youdraw.com/cgi-bin/solopic.pl?picnum=263703, which i drew in a kind of story board on YouDraw. :)

Axil62 (Apr 3, 2006)

A youdrawer eh? :)

gerbear (Apr 4, 2006)

well *blushes*..yeh. Liked what a pain in the ar*se it is to draw there. I have done a few things I like over there. Not sure u will link to em but ..http://www.youdraw.com/cgi-bin/solopic.pl?picnum=363318, http://www.youdraw.com/cgi-bin/solopic.pl?picnum=350921 (got the face too wide but still like it), http://www.youdraw.com/cgi-bin/solopic.pl?picnum=263993, http://www.youdraw.com/cgi-bin/solopic.pl?picnum=254481 (my fav as it is original, no photo ref). Anyhow...enuff of me *laughing*

Am just learning the program here. Went thru your gallery. I would rave, but you already know how good you are. :) Both my parents are professional artists and I teach it so I have seen my share of art and in my opinion you are truly brilliant. Well, dang, I raved anyhow didn't I?

Delta Gruis

Sweetcell (Apr 3, 2006)

Taken from a book of mine called Spacewreck, this is almost near to what the painting looks like by an artist called Angus McKie. The description of the piece warns the unsuspecting traveller that danger lurks on the planet Eden, a place between reality and madness. The real planet was big and I did not want to bother with it, so shrunk down for my sanity's sake. *whew* My hand hurts.

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Miss_DJ (Apr 4, 2006)

oh my gosh sweetcell...this is a beauty..now I have to make a ship!!

Sweetcell (Apr 4, 2006)

Thanks DonnaJean, and yes you do. XD

Axil62 (Apr 4, 2006)

I'm impressed, this is really cool.

Sweetcell (Apr 4, 2006)

Oh, thank you so much Axil, a treat to get a reply from you. :)