i like seeing your stages, you use the line too a lot by the looks o things, then blur or something?> but its good stuff, theres just something not quite right about the placement of her eyes, it might be the eyebrow thats makin my sight squint tho. sorry to be a nag
frootcake: I use the line tool almost exclusively. I have little to no controll of my hand, and I find that the line allows for more control.
As for the eyes, I can see what you mean if I specifically look for what youre talking about, but she really does have bizzarre features.
They almost offend my sensibilities as an artist, because they are so far away froom the norm. Her eyes are unusually large and far apart,
and her lips are so big that I felt as though I was doing a caricature. If I could I would link the reference...
Thank you for taking the time to comment... criticism is always welcome on my paintings.
thanks for the reply, yea after looking somemore, it does look exactly like her. and note to self *use more line tool*
if you want to post a ref or any link, then click the niftyToo markup help thing under this text box :)
its quite a coincidence, that todays word was me was caricature, and there you go and say it :)
Yup, that's her, V2 looks a little more like her, but you can't mistake that face. You put Angelina and Jolleel Blalock in the same room you'd think you were looking at seperated twins, lips Mick Jagger would kill for.
One critique and it's minor, you forgot the vile of blood. But that's ok, I think we'd all like to forget that.
I also saw what frootcake saw about the eyes, so I went to go dig up the picture in the link you posted, and I think I know what it is:
Instead of the nose widening from the ball of the nose, upwards, you want it to be angling inwards. That would mean that the left eye (from our viewpoint), would have to move in towards the right. That left eye is also a tad too low. Try imagining a straight horizontal line drawn from the top of both eyelids, and compare the gap between your drawing and the reference, and you should see what I mean.
On a positive note, I like the textures formed in the lips by the highlights and shadows as well as the feel in the gem-like eyes. The use of some of the odd colors in the skin tone also make the face more vibrant in my opinion...
I was comparing this to the photo, and I dragged a ghost of my painnting over the actual photo (I dont know if that makes sense to you, but you can drag a translucent copy).
The eye's match identically...the problem is in the length of the nose, because while the eyes are an identical match, the mouth and tip of nose are slightly lower than where I have them.
Are you sure they match up identically? If anything, the eye alignment is off. Looking quickly, back and forth from your drawing to the reference, the left eye seems to drop quite a bit.
-I just tried the same thing, and I'm kinda seeing what you're saying...but I wonder if it's due to some type of distortion in enlarging/shrinking. But then again, if you want to keep the eyes in the positions they're in and want to match the face to fit them, you probably have more tweaking to do than if you fixed the positioning alone, such as stretching her head; since when you do drag the translucency over the actual reference for the eyes to fit, the height of your picture doesn't fit the height of the reference.
I think the fact that its not exact adds more interest.
I don't know if its just the way you worded your comment gig, but it doesn't sound like the purpose of your comment is to help
It sounds like criticism for the sake of criticism
Nah, I just thought I could help. It's probably the wording, if anything. Besides, he/she responded as well as mentioned that criticism is welcome, so I don't know what the problem is. Please don't tell me what my intentions or motives are when you don't know me at all.
I just like helping people out when I can, nothing more to it.
I think sometimes too much emphasis is put on things being exact, and some forget that these are paintings. They are the artists' interpretations of the subject, and even in a portrait a little deviance from the actual subject matter is not only acceptable, it's actually refreshing and what makes it art. We aren't photocopy machines. The only time I think it bears mentioning is if the proportions are so terribly off on something that it makes the painting disturbing and unenjoyable.
Well, if you don't mind yet another opinion, I think that her left (our right) is slightly higher, slightly larger (or open wider), and at a slightly steeper angle than the ref. The differences are very subtle, but when you're talking about eyes the subtlest differences can have dramatic effects. Switching between your version and the ref resized to be the same size, the wideness of the face stands out the most. Changing the angle of the lips might help that eye seem more in place too. You did a good job here, I recognized it as being her right away. It amazes me that you accomplish such a painterly look by using the line tool.
edit: mixed up my left and right. man I feel stupid.
Her left eye is screwed up. If you flip between the original and your picture, you can see it. I don't really have an issue with any other parts of the face (whether they look like the reference or not, I don't care), but that eye really bothers me (I almost made a comment about that when you asked me for space). The problem is that you have the eyelid almost polygonal rather than a smooth curve. You have it come to a point. The whole eye is probably rotated up a bit, if you use the inside as a pivot. 2draw seriously needs an annotation feature...
in my humble and unqualified opinion, i think there simply needs to be more distinct dark shading at the top of her nose between her eyes. it looks way wider in your piece than the reference. very pretty either way. nice work.
I'll reiterate that I dont mind criticism at all. I prefer it over false accolades.
I think I need to take a break from looking at this for a while, because I still dont see the problem with the eye. I am convinced that there must be since a few of you see it. Sometimes it helps to take a break and then look. Her head is tilted it the picture, and she is kind of lifting one eyebrow. Its that subtle expression that attracted me to do the painting, so I would hate to loose that.
I agree with DBA that there is a certin interpretation that comes out when you paint somethiing that is lost when something is 'traced.'
Staci: I really use the line tool most just because I spaz out freehad. But thanks. :)
firstly i'd like to say next time i draw i will use the line tool no end, and secondly, sorry for what i started, its a wonderful picture and the only way to rectify this situation is for everyone to draw the picture the way they think it should be done (i know this been done before) but that should sort the men from the boys.
left <<<<< >>>>> right
the colours used are phenomenal..the lips and eyes..I have tried to pain this woman's face along with others, but hers the most and I have yet to ger all her facial feature correct...so I enjoy looking at this..the only thing I would stay to tune up some..would be the hair , needs a little definition..but that is me of course, you are your own artist and for you this maybe finished. But this is phenomenal! pardon my mispellings.
drawn in 2 hours 7 min
drawn in 2 hours 8 min
drawn in 58 min
you shade skin so wellll <333
great
As for the eyes, I can see what you mean if I specifically look for what youre talking about, but she really does have bizzarre features.
They almost offend my sensibilities as an artist, because they are so far away froom the norm. Her eyes are unusually large and far apart,
and her lips are so big that I felt as though I was doing a caricature. If I could I would link the reference...
Thank you for taking the time to comment... criticism is always welcome on my paintings.
if you want to post a ref or any link, then click the niftyToo markup help thing under this text box :)
its quite a coincidence, that todays word was me was caricature, and there you go and say it :)
Lorenzo Agius through this link: http://creative.gettyimages.com/source/ListingService/ResultsLS.aspx?cs=11020%7e%7e%7e%7e%7eZ%7eZ%7eZ%7e2000%7e0&type=1
One critique and it's minor, you forgot the vile of blood. But that's ok, I think we'd all like to forget that.
Instead of the nose widening from the ball of the nose, upwards, you want it to be angling inwards. That would mean that the left eye (from our viewpoint), would have to move in towards the right. That left eye is also a tad too low. Try imagining a straight horizontal line drawn from the top of both eyelids, and compare the gap between your drawing and the reference, and you should see what I mean.
On a positive note, I like the textures formed in the lips by the highlights and shadows as well as the feel in the gem-like eyes. The use of some of the odd colors in the skin tone also make the face more vibrant in my opinion...
The eye's match identically...the problem is in the length of the nose, because while the eyes are an identical match, the mouth and tip of nose are slightly lower than where I have them.
-I just tried the same thing, and I'm kinda seeing what you're saying...but I wonder if it's due to some type of distortion in enlarging/shrinking. But then again, if you want to keep the eyes in the positions they're in and want to match the face to fit them, you probably have more tweaking to do than if you fixed the positioning alone, such as stretching her head; since when you do drag the translucency over the actual reference for the eyes to fit, the height of your picture doesn't fit the height of the reference.
I don't know if its just the way you worded your comment gig, but it doesn't sound like the purpose of your comment is to help
It sounds like criticism for the sake of criticism
I just like helping people out when I can, nothing more to it.
edit: mixed up my left and right. man I feel stupid.
I think I need to take a break from looking at this for a while, because I still dont see the problem with the eye. I am convinced that there must be since a few of you see it. Sometimes it helps to take a break and then look. Her head is tilted it the picture, and she is kind of lifting one eyebrow. Its that subtle expression that attracted me to do the painting, so I would hate to loose that.
I agree with DBA that there is a certin interpretation that comes out when you paint somethiing that is lost when something is 'traced.'
Staci: I really use the line tool most just because I spaz out freehad. But thanks. :)
left <<<<< >>>>> right