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TRIP (Jun 7, 2005)
It's the same damn thing again.

More Garbage to throw in.

[EDIT] Hmm. Its funny how a misdirected comment turns things into mindless banter. I understand what it means to produce commerical art, I understand and see that other artists are not appreciated, I understand and appreciate the input I already recieve nor was it some stupid cry to recieve more. It was a simple statment that the trend on this art forum is to replicate photos to recieve a particular mass attention and THAT WAS ALL. I already recieve input. People tell me what I need to hear already. You do not need to preach to me; calling me names and other things does not help the fact that I have an opinion. If you have a real problem with me, take it into private. PM me. I'm sure a gaggle of you enjoy arguing in Oekaki submission comments, but this isn't the place for them. I discourage further commenting on the 'subject' herin.
TRIP (Jun 7, 2005)
drawn in 26 min
PolythenePam (Jun 7, 2005)
I love the way you draw words.
TRIP (Jun 7, 2005)
drawn in 1 hour 50 min
'll finish this shat tomorrow
TRIP (Jun 7, 2005)
drawn in 1 hour 26 min
over and over
ak.to.v.his.di (Jun 7, 2005)
i like this... it's different yet somewhat funny at the same time. the detail and coloration are good... well done... ^_^
Noremac (Jun 7, 2005)
nice and smooth
Punky (Jun 7, 2005)
oh, this is beautiful. i like this alot. *gives cookies*
TRIP (Jun 8, 2005)
heh, thanks. But I think I'll have to copy photos to actually amuse people more at these boards
TheCrimsonKing (Jun 8, 2005)
Yes it certainly seems like your work goes underappreciated here.. but lack of comments doesn't always mean people aren't looking at your work and loving the hell out of it. I guess there are some who don't feel the need to encourage truly creative artists like yourself.
Noremac (Jun 8, 2005)
BURN!.. nice and smooth
Renuar (Jun 8, 2005)
I like the style behind your images. Well done trip, this is great.
p.s. leave the photo's alone. I’d rather see you copy your imagination.
Zack (Jun 8, 2005)
Well, you're right, but you gotta fight the good fight. Whenever a drawing I'm proud of draws little attention, I just remind myself of how little Zep is appreciated in proportion to his greatness. I really love your work, but you seem pretty cocky. Maybe a little humility would do you good.
TRIP (edited Jun 8, 2005)
It was a joke, hunnie, and I know what you mean. I've felt kind of reliant latley; I'm ready to graduate HighSchool this week and am going to apply for a prestigious fine arts college next year (you can't start out right out of High School). I feel anxious; do people find the deeper meaning behind the images displayed, is it favored, would it be appreciated. Its fucked up that I have to worry about public interest before self creativity but sometimes ones true creativity isn't going to put you in the right place in life; where the industrial machine has moved towards the raffish fashion of mediocre imagry. My only true passion is artistic musings, but these cardboard cut-out graphics jobs are what I will ultimatley be assigned to later on in life. I will be the public's best interest
Zack (edited Jun 11, 2005)
Don't patronize me. I know you were joking, but it is indicative of an underlying attitude.

I imagine your favorites of your own works will rarely align with the public's favorites. That's just the way it is; your most easily understood and appreciable works will usually get the most attention, as opposed to your intricate and meaningful ones. But being marketable doesn't necessarily mean being vapid. You can infuse art with levels of meaning below the surface and still be conscientious of how it will appeal to a wider audience. That's my take on it, anyway. Get their attention with your good looks, keep it with your depth of personality.

edit: I apologize for dropping the F-bomb, especially on mistaken assumptions. I need to lighten up.
TRIP (edited Jun 8, 2005)
That wasnt intended to patronize your comment. I appologize if it came out that way
*edit* The comment was written -before- I saw your comment with the first sentence in reply to Crimson. So unless I am a master of foreshadowing internet emo e-drama, it wasnt aimed at you nor anyone in general. I smell a drama llama. Further commenting on this silly controversial matter is discouraged
kejoco (edited Jun 8, 2005)
You certainly have talent trip but it does make you sound like a whiney brat with a comment like yours.
Many people have been flamed in the past for complaining about a lack of comments on their drawings.
All the same, I'd hate to see someone with talent leave this site so I hope the idea doesn't cross your mind. Your art here is definitely appreciated and you're one of the ones I look for when browsing the boards.
If you plan on going into commercial art you do have to buck up and face the fact that what you like isn't whats going to sell. A lot of what means anything to you will have no bearing to the person who is commissioning you to create something for them. You have to find a balance between creating what has meaning to you and what sells to the masses
Kasha (edited Jun 8, 2005)
ahhh, I know what you mean Zack. I think my best pieces spew out of my head. They may not gain as much recognition as my unoriginal pieces but it's not something to get upset over. 5 original peices out of 13 got showcase (EXCLUDING the cherry, haha) it isn't that bad but it's still a small percentage of my original artwork that has gotten in the showcase. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't bother me one bit, I'm just grateful. Yes, Zep really IS under appreciated at this site. It sucks it has to be that way. It's because well... the majority of people here a drawn to anime and things of that sort, so most likely they will comment on a reproduced anime character rather than originality lacking anime.That's another thing that's remarkable about Zep is that he CAN own many of artist here by drawing an anime-esque pic that would receive hundreds of comments but he doesn't care. I don't think Zep thrives on comments. Nobody should. You can tell he draws from his heart. We all should.

Trip: I once was bashed for drawing images that I thought would please others. To be honest, everything I draw (except for requests) is exactly what I want to draw. I'm glad that others can appreciate some of my work. It's okay not to have comments on a piece. You just move on. Too many people want to be excepted in this world of art. Don't let people put you down and just do what you feel. You come 1st .....then others. That's what art should be about. You're absolutely right though, it really is going to be hard to find a career based on true creativity. This world is about marketing. You draw what they think think will sell. At the same time, it's not entierly impossible to find a job based on you're standards of art. You just gotta be at the right place at the right time. Don't worry about others, this isn't a portfolio site. You won't have to worry about big companies looking here. 2draw is a place to fuck around, do what you want. You're heading in the right direction in drawing what you feel and not what others want. Do what ever the hell you want and have fun.
zep (Jun 8, 2005)
hi there...(thanks Kasha (my idol) and Zack (my collab partner :))...i really appreciated comments like anyone else i think, but at some other point of view, sometimes a single comment makes me more excited than a hundred of them...

Returning to the topic, i agreed with kasha this NOT a portfolio site, i think it´s a place to have fun and meet people who cares about images and drawing, with that thing in mind i think this is quite the better drawing site i know...
Just a little story to finish, i´ve used my gallery on this site to show what i´m capable to do with the right audience and i get a couple of jobs because of that, so i think you can test your proffesional possibilities showing your work to the people do you want to see your work...

Anyway, my guess is, if this site should have a view counter instead of a comment counter, you will see that your draws are "very" appreciated, have fun, i like your draws a lot, but like you see i comment a very few times, it happens to me with a lot of other people here, i see and like their draws but i don´t comment...except with kasha , i guess :)
marcello (Jun 8, 2005)
(it actually does have a view counter, it's just not displayed anywhere)
zep (edited Jun 8, 2005)
ok, if this site should have a public view counter... :)
hey Cello why is it that the comments get submitted twice? (excuse my english, please)
Cordelia_Pink (Jun 10, 2005)
lol man, you all love debates just admit it. Your pictures are different from what I've seen before. It's got some sort of glossiness and softness to it. I'm not sure if I've seen this style before but I think it's great. There are neat lighting effects on this.
Gigandas (Jun 10, 2005)
Hmm, I'm still not sure why a lot of us put such a huge emphasis on "drawing from the heart/express your feelings" in art. Art is a VERY large field. And I'd hate to burst anyone's bubble, but it's not always about that. What would you call drawing characters or backgrounds for video games? I sure hope you're more for adjusting what the character may look like with the given personality and surroundings in the game, rather than "drawing to express yourself." My point is, art is not always about being able to draw abstract expressive drawings. There is a lot more art you're missing out on if this is the case.
TRIP (Jun 10, 2005)
okay, whatever people are trying to argue now, take it to the forums or PMs.
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