forums2draw.netWhy do I suck so much?
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
How do you guys draw your linees so smooth? I know I ask a lot of questions but that's how you learn right? -dies because I feel so hopeless-
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
you gots to have patience! >.<"
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concannon (Nov 27, 2004)
Yep, that's mostly it. Patience.
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
Patience, the will, and confidence.
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
yes! confidence!
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Kilala (edited Nov 27, 2004)
AHHHHHHHH! GOD **** IT! Sorry... go on.
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Lauren_Garcia (Nov 27, 2004)
if you say you suck to people, it makes people utomatically look at your peice and look for all the flaws. its the same with yourself, if you say your ugly, people will look for the flaws on you. have confidence. love yoruself and your work, and work harder, set goals that will make be a challenge, so once you finish those goals you will progress a whole lot faster. and better.
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Nightmare (edited Nov 27, 2004)
Go to Mazi if you want to learn about confidence.
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
practice! lots and lots of practice!
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
Get a sketchbook..do some sketches and try to get a style down. That's what i did...(if you call my art a 'style')
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me007 (edited Nov 27, 2004)
all the tools are there.. first of learning what each one does helps a ton, heck im still learning what the heck half of the tools can really do. Patience and practice are two of the main things.. insperation helps a lot too ;) so try and find some if you are having a hard time
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
Insperation. :)
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me007 (edited Nov 27, 2004)
DURR.. lol thanx... thanksgiving break gettin to me :P (there we go fixed it) yes iNsperation helps a lot some days when you just cant think of something to draw. On everything I start I say to myself "this is going to be my best picture yet" Now they sometimes dont turn out that way, but that mentality will push yourself to get better and better.. hope that helps :)
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concannon (Nov 27, 2004)
Actually, guys: inspiration. There is no 'e'.
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
I'm good at drawing on paper but..... I'M SO FREACKIN' POOR! GRRR!
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
That's what I meant. Typing to fast.
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
what does being poor have to do with drawing?
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me007 (Nov 27, 2004)
I feel so illiterate... :P o well.. paper and computer are fairly different. I can draw s*** on paper.. thats about it.. maybe higher quality s***.. but im a lot better on the computer. just practise techniques and dont give up or lose faith in yourself and you will get it
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
I need a tablet... those dang people took away my box. CURSE THEM!
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
Yea..go get a pencil from school and some paper. Tape the paper together at the top and there is your sketchbook. That's what I had to do when I couldn't afford a sketchbook. You could also doodle on your school assignments. That's what I do.
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
i'm so poor i have to doodle on my hand! XD
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mazi (Nov 27, 2004)
wtf mate. why does everyone think im so confident? o_o;

oook. so you start off scribbling like mad. getting down shapes and structures and where the lines will be. make sure you have it all down to exactly where you want the lines to be before you start drawing them because if you want smooth lines, youre putting lots and lots of work into them and erasing them makes you want to cry. SO make sure its exactly where you want it first. then on the next layer up "sketch" in lines. like.. go back and fourth over the same line. i use the pen tool in shi-painter on full opacity. 2px for main lines, 1px for thinner more detailed stuff. put in your lines and then go over them with the eraser and smooth them out. take out any stray lines. you might need to add some more if you erase too much but thats all a part of it. work hard and you'll get lines.

if youre still at a loss i recommend watching the animations of someones drawings that you think have smooth lines. like hakkai, 'mando, furyofroy, quintessence, visceralvamp etc etc etc. 'kai is the masta of sexy lines. so go stalk her.

(and i think she did a line tutorial at some point that i found on another site when i was stalking her. i'll get back to you on that one though.)
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
I think Marcello wrote something about this in the Wiki...I think..
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Kloxboy (Nov 27, 2004)
Some were just meant to suck. Get out there and suck your best, it's all you can do or anyone for that matter.
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concannon (Nov 27, 2004)
<3 <3 mazi. Honestly, though, do go look at 'Kai, Mando, and furyofroy's stuff. They are fantastic. Honestly.
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
WOOOO! Ask Kenshin, I always have something drawn on my hand.... the ink gets all over my face. I look better, covers up my uglt face! XD
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
And what does that have to do with this topic?
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seaanemone (edited Nov 27, 2004)
what doesn't it have to do with this topic?!?! XD XD XD
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
This is a forum, not a chatroom. Great, now I am getting envolved...
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
I wish I was a girl -looks down- HEY! I am! XDXDXDXDXDXD
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
well... Kilala said she was poor and then i said i was soo poor i need to doodle on my hand and then she said that she does that too... and then...
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
Do want to drive the Mod's nuts? I warned you.
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Kloxboy (Nov 27, 2004)
I could care less, blah blah blah blah blah!
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
What's M...O...D...S....N...U...T...S.... I'm just crazy!
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
but you asked what it had to do with this so i had to tell you and now i am doing the same thing so don't yell at me!!!! *cries*
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Nightmare (Nov 27, 2004)
Kilala-Take your hyperness out on a piece paper with a pen or other writing utencil.

seaanemone-It's better me than a Mod. Sorry if I yell at you, but you need to keep chatrooms with chatrooms and forums with forums.
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
I'M TELLING MY MOMMY! -stabs herself while eating a dounut-
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seaanemone (Nov 27, 2004)
well same to you! hmph!
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
Mmmm.... douNUTS! XD
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TaCO (Nov 27, 2004)
When I get artist block I Just go buy a new shetch pad, and get a bic pen. And i draw as fast as I posibily can And I don't worry about my misstakes. I only spend about 2 to 3 mins on each page. And I draw until the whole shetch book in covered, this usally takes an hour or so. Then I draw on the back of the pages. After I do this I can draw anything. I improve dramaticly everytime I do this. Maybe this will help u too.
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seaanemone (edited Nov 27, 2004)
wow that's cool! but i doubt i'll be able to afford a sketch book every time i get a art block!!! i sorta do the same thing but on paint bbs... XD
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Kilala (Nov 27, 2004)
Wow... thanks! Anyone else?
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bumpinthenight (Nov 27, 2004)
well, I draw my lines really smooth by drawing the basic line, going over it a few times with a fuzzy brush, and then making it smooth with an eraser.... thats why it takes me ages to do my lineart.... :P you have to have patience and one crapload of time on your hands... :) hope that helped.. :D
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HunterKiller_ (Dec 9, 2004)
Ummm... Anti-Antiliased anyone?
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Maiko (Dec 9, 2004)
I r t3h QUEEN of SUX0rz Lineart! yay go me
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spiritdweller (Dec 9, 2004)
if you think you suck, you're gonna suck.. go into a new drawing with no fears...
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sincity (Dec 9, 2004)
I'm with Mazi. Poor Mazi, at least I think. Every time this subject comes up, I look and wait for some one to say, " Talk to Mazi..." Then I fall on the floor laughing, because I think he must be saying, and now I see.....WTF. HA! HAAAAA! :} Patience, practice and the will to do it, a little real love for it helps too. That's all it takes. You don't need a kick ass computer and a Wacom tablet, that won't make you any better, just more frustrated at the fact that your not doing any better, and why....YOU DIDN"T PRACTICE.
BOTTOM LINE---------'nuff said.
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Animegirl250 (Dec 10, 2004)
its all in yur head!
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nozomii (edited Dec 10, 2004)
Sheesh Kilala, if you suck, than i am hopeless... =/
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Cordelia_Pink (Dec 10, 2004)
Vera! You're not hopeless! At least you don't have a gallery filled with bunch of stickman drawings. lol You just need some practice (that's if you really wanna be good at it) and you're good at other things too so don't worry too much.

Kilala, what it really takes is (like what others have said) patience, confidence and passion for Art. Drawing online is a little different from drawing with a pencil on paper. I think drawing oline is less work because if you make a mistake, you don't make such a mess when erasing, you can also do layers of your lines, do a layer of dark lines and clean up some visible lines under those darker lines. lol That kind of stuff. Also, whether you're using a mouse or a tablet, which doesn't really make you any better with lineart (maybe a little more control? I dunno, I've never tried it), you have to be good at drawing first. All it takes is practice, practice, practice. If you really want to perfect a lineart, TAKE YOUR TIME. It doesn't matter if it takes you an hour and a half to complete it. You know what they say: "Quality is better than quantity." Not everybody draws fast and can do a nice job in such a short time (unless you're incredibly gifted). But just keep working on it if you really want to be good at lineart. I think lineart is cool too but can be very frustrating. Anyhow, you seem to enjoy art a lot, especially anime stuff, so good luck!
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Kenshin (Dec 10, 2004)
a tablet could help with lines.
 
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