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Coo (Mar 6, 2004)
My first oekaki ever, I was just practicing to use this thingy o_O
1 comment – latest 2:
Coo (Mar 6, 2004)
drawn in 2 min
Err, forgot eyebrows from the first one :(
Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Not bad at all... you've got a smooth way of drawing lineart, as well with the colouring. The hair looks a bit flat, maybe you should've added some more perspective to it? Now it looks kinda like a pancake thrown at his head...
drawn in 38 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Intermediate 
ToraNeko (Mar 1, 2004)
Now isn't this just an awe inspering title? lol
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Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Reading all that arguing made me angry. Then I scrolled back up to see the picture and I got happy again! Such is the power of art.

I could just fall in love with this picture. Everything's there, all placed to it's right place making this a balanced masterpiece. The colours, lineart... heck, even the slight reflection on the water or how them fingers show through the water.

I like the original, felineish creature, as it reminds me of a fursona I created for my best friend. She, too, has horns and cat-like features and hooves. Even the hair-colour reminds of her. And am I bitching about copyrights? Hell no.~ Since it's said that a room with a hundred chimpanzees, given the time and typewriters, could type the whole Shakespeare productions, then why couldn't two people in this world come up with similar-looking characters? Not to say that they remind (as Marcello said) in any other real way that both are furries and have horns.

And if my comment starts the whole stupid, insensible whining all over again, I'm sorry in advance.
Alinnia (edited Mar 8, 2004)
'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice. Sure, it's a nice peice. The drawing is nice. The coloring is nice. The idea is nice. But the character design is not original... it's as simple as that. It disappoints me to see such uncreative artists... and irrisponsible moderators. It's irritating to know that the 'attitudes' of the DeviantArt Admin have migrated on to other sites that /seem/ to have so much potential...

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it. (Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.) If /I/ didn't think I was being ripped off, I wouldn't've said anything. Anything at all. ...

(And YES, ToraNeko, as a matter of fact, before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time, to make /sure/ our concepts are different than those around us... it's all part of our responsibility as designers... If you can't take on that responsibility... DON'T DO IT.)

And of COURSE the world is built on modifying different things. My character in and of himself must be made of at least 12 different concepts from existing characters from popular series'... but you'd never know. It IS a hybrid of 2 different animals.. animals aren't copyrighted.. however, within the thousands of combinations one /could/ have made with these animals, why should 2 designs look /that/ simliar at all? And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is. Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people. Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.

These sites no longer have my support. No funding. No art. No reccomendations. Only warnings to those who may wish to join. Don't post your ideas on these sites.. fan-wannabes /will/ steal them..

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen. Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
marcello (edited Mar 9, 2004)
All I can say is: OMG LMFAO

Find me some people who actually agree with you, because there sure are a lot of people who do not. Copyright law is not being broken here, so do not make it sound like someone is doing you a great injustice.

edit: at the expense of my linear algebra homework, I am gonna actually try replying to your message. Although I find it hard to stop laughing.

'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?
Despite what you might think, the moderators for a site are to help me, not you. No where do we claim to be artistic moderators or professionals in the field of critiquing or judging your pictures. We are not paid enough for that.

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice.
Sorry to take you away from your busy schedule. But aside from your effort to make yourself sound superior again, you really need to learn how to spell. A college student has no excuse for misspelling 8 words in something that short, especially with words such as "piece," "irresponsible," "field," "thoroughly," and so on. And none are typos.

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it.
First off, as we do not know of every character or drawing submitted on the internet, we really cannot do anything about pieces that no one says anything about. In this case, there is no relation at all between the characters to give you any case.

(Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.)
Then e-mail him and send him this link, and have him CC me a reply, I want to hear his opinion.

before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time
Care to share how one goes about doing this? How would someone find your design, for example, and know to avoid copying it? Search for "original furries with horns" on google?

And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.
Again, you continue to insult my intelligence. And though undeserving, I spent quite a bit of time looking over both of them, side-by-side to see if I could see what you meant. Alas I found quite the opposite, as I detailed in my previous messages.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.
Quite sad. Definitely not safe, in fact, you might even get a virus! *shocker* I want to find someone serious about their "practition." (P.s. I am mocking you here, because your b.s.ing is amusing.)

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is.
Do not support them, then. No one is forcing you.

Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people.
You realize you sound like a snob when you say that, right?

Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.
This is your problem, you are so caught up in the politics of it that you cannot do it for fun. 2draw is not a place to post your resume, it is to have fun drawing in one's spare time.

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen.
Wow, if something this "similar" is the worst that will happen when someone rips me off, I guess I should not be too worried about anything!

Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
I shudder at the thought.

And in conclusion, your design is not that great. I mean, come on, it is a furry.
Dainamo (Mar 9, 2004)
:3
Marcello... most people against furry art don't find originality in their peices... I've seen a few rants and such where furry artists feel 'unloved' as opposed to a person who copies 'anime' art
o.o *shrugs* But that's just me.. find one of those people supporting her? Well I'd be one :3
Watch as I end up on some.. hit list now or something x.x;;

.... and yis, Mr. Tiemann is very strict about such things... I doubt Alinnia will be stopping here anymore so I'll deliver him this postage and stuff, alrighties? :3

Sometimes I just wish some peeps would see eye to eye instead of thinking their views are always correct...
Although posting to the pic...
only thing I see wrong with it is the tongue... x.x Too red for my tastes.. other than that, it's a fine peice. If it was copy designed or not, I like it :3
drawn in 3 hours 26 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Childlike_Vampire (Mar 5, 2004)
My first completely explicit porn piece.

I've noticed people don't comment as much on the 18+ images. I've wondered, is it because they don't want to admit looking at them or because they don't feel it's a valid piece of art?

*shrugs* Enjoy. ^__^
15 comments – latest 4:
furyofroy (Mar 11, 2004)
Whooo... that's good. Wonderful breasts and cute pussy. While it's been said, I must agree about her asscheeks.
Childlike_Vampire (Mar 11, 2004)
You are so right Axil...ever since you said that it's been sticking out to me and I want to kill it! I will fix it when I can, probably next month...*growls* anyhoo...

Thanks so much for all the comments on this pic, I wasn't expecting so many!

Marcello: Yes, she died her hair, odd colored pubes have always kinna bugged meh... Fin: I rarely use the water color, mostly I only use pen and soft eraser, and airbrush to blend...

And that's all! thankies.
Childlike_Vampire (Apr 10, 2004)
drawn in 23 hours
There, methinks I fixed it. Either way, I'm sick of staring at cartoon pussy. lmao. :P
Xodiak (Apr 17, 2004)
*masturbates to your drawing*
She is so sexxxxxxxy! Good job! You draw awesome female genitals! >:D
|XOD|
This is hidden because it is rated 18+. Edit your privacy settings to make it visible.
drawn in 1 day 1 hour with Oekaki Shi-Painter
PinkuEspeon (Mar 6, 2004)
Eh... this is my first attemp EVER trying to draw Yuna from FFX-2... I haven't tried to her in real life, yet... O.O;; heh... but, just tell me what you think of this... is it good or bad for my first time ever trying to draw Yuna? |:
14 comments – latest 4:
PinkuEspeon (Mar 6, 2004)
MROW!! I KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO!! I'm gonna give it another try! Me and this... uh... led light mouse are going to work together and DRAW THIS PICTURE RIGHT!! MWA HAH HAH HAH HEH!!! What? I just said that I was going to try this again.
deadpunk123456 (Apr 3, 2004)
cool i like it alot
KiwiKitsune (Apr 3, 2004)
PinkuEspeon is my other account on 2draw. I don't use it anymore... I use this one now. Go and look at my first submittion on this one! ^_^
nekyo (edited Apr 25, 2004)
Pinku/Kiwi, in case you may pop back by this account - the mouse is not an excuse.. I use an LED mouse, and if you'll check out my (2.. heh... *cough*) drawings, they are both done in mouse.. my very first and second oekakis... never had done this before...
drawn in 1 hour 22 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
furyofroy (Mar 4, 2004)
I was "bored". Haha.
14 comments – latest 4:
Harlie_Mcallister (May 16, 2004)
oh please draw more of this fury hentai stuff
marcello (May 16, 2004)
this isn't hentai =P
HeadlessHeadbanger (edited May 16, 2004)
Don't do it! you have too much to live for! oh.......GREAT DRAWING!
Harlie_Mcallister (May 20, 2004)
i know it isn't!
It wateva u call it
4got............=P
hentai is sex
drawn in 1 hour 30 min with PaintBBS
Public Boards/Beginner 
ky (Feb 25, 2004)
Ari and Stan.
5 comments – latest 4:
tattered_wing (Mar 1, 2004)
AIIEEEEE! * glomps * I love Okage! ^-^ and I love Ari! hes so kawaii..........* clings * very nice shading, and you did Stan perfect! * cackles out of insane Okage oekaki joy *
Marienkind (Mar 1, 2004)
damn, that was a cute game. and stan was adorable - though i still don't buy the thing about ari being sixteen.

queh, he looks downright pinchable here.
Neko (Mar 3, 2004)
So, did they ever bring the game to US? I live in Europe so I wouldn't know... Nah, not feeling like checking out any gaming news. *speaking to voices*
Natsuna (Feb 27, 2006)
This games fun :) Although i'm stuck :(
drawn in 1 hour 7 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
craptastic_spaztic (Feb 28, 2004)
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4 comments – latest 4:
jazzysinger (Feb 28, 2004)
why did you rate this 18+? but i like it, the colors, and the line drawing is fun.
dixielandcutie (Feb 29, 2004)
hehe, omg, im still laughing on this one...hehe. cuuute
ToraNeko (Feb 29, 2004)
AHAHAHA!!! *cluching sides from pain of laughter* Oh I really like the moon! But the little space dude has my heart, LOL!
Neko (Mar 1, 2004)
Holy s*it this is awesome. I'll never look at the nightsky with same eyes.
drawn in 1 hour 8 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DieChan (Mar 1, 2004)
Wow. I have proven to myself that I CAN draw with a mouse. *cramp* This is a made up character playing DDR, the home version. You just can't see the pad... Anyway, I think it's pretty good for my returning pic from a mouse. I'm so used to a pen that I thought I couldn't do it.
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Neko (Mar 1, 2004)
Well, you seem to do excellent job with both tablet and mouse!

The only critic I can find is that her colours are blurry. Them pants are camouflage, true, but very undetermined ones, without real line with the different colours...

Enough about the little-boohoo, since I like this pic. Love her pose, clothes, and especially the stylish background.
Noremac (Mar 5, 2004)
i wish i had a tablet T.T i could actually pay attention to my artwork then rather than trrying to fix my mouse wheel :D
drawn in 35 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
Virus (Feb 24, 2004)
I can draw! hooray for low mouse speeds!
6 comments – latest 4:
Krystiana (Feb 24, 2004)
Very nifty. I really like this style. Sometimes it's a nice refresh to see solid colors - it makes pictures very bright and it gives me a big smile. ^__^
dixielandcutie (Feb 24, 2004)
hehe, cute. i love the sharp color contrast!
Neko (Feb 24, 2004)
Now if he was saying something, like "Obey Mao Zedong's will!" I'd be doing it right away. This is like those old commie propaganda posters brought through 80s to the present. You shouldn't had to sign it, though. Now the blue/black text somehow disturbes the otherwise solid background.
davincipoppalag (Feb 24, 2004)
I like this too.. good lines and you did alot with a minimum of them.. I agree.. the signature takes away..
drawn in 37 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
ky (Feb 24, 2004)
13+ for blood.

Look, it's an eye picture. With a whole head attached!
10 comments – latest 4:
DragonClaw (Feb 25, 2004)
sweet pic its awsome i love the colors of the eyes. of course i like all of ky's pics "ky you rock!".
strangeoid (Feb 25, 2004)
Good, but I actually know a guy who has cried blood... technically, he broke a blood vessel in a fight, but it was really gross... in a cool way.
lilypad (Feb 26, 2004)
marcello, what do u mean i'm slow? "
Marienkind (Mar 28, 2004)
"have mercy, child of another world?"

commenting on old stuff. that looks more like acid tears, being orange and all.
drawn in 15 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
 
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