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SuzieSuze (Sep 24, 2003)
drawing of Kairi.. ahh my hand! "kills mouse" :(
8 comments – latest 4:
SuzieSuze (edited Sep 25, 2003)
thanks for the comments.. her lips could look the way they do because I have full lips and they do look natural to me. I could have made them thinner though. Sorry she looks waxy I am still new at this and at shading..
baka_toire (Sep 27, 2003)
wow I love those eyes there very blue
TPBaByBoO (Sep 28, 2003)
I really love the shading. It looks almost exactly like Kiari.
left_hander (Mar 12, 2004)
This is great it makes me want to go draw a cute girl with red hair too lol anyways keep drawing
drawn in 1 hour 20 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
15grifficorntears (Mar 6, 2004)
Black, Blue, Bronze, and Silver. those are my favorite D&D dragons.
6 comments – latest 4:
nitegodess (Mar 7, 2004)
cute, trisha
Neko (Mar 8, 2004)
Cute design with the draggies, but what if you'd had done something about that horrid background? I mean, that greenish brown mass? Them balls just don't seem enough. Also, the darkest dragon might be a bit _too_ dark, maybe some lighter lineart for him?

Still, I love that tipsy-toeing, silverish one in the foreground.
15grifficorntears (edited Mar 8, 2004)
drawn in 2 min
is that better Your Majesty? i'm in a bad mood, don't mind me.
PinkuEspeon (Mar 12, 2004)
Aww! ^_^ There is such cuteness in this!! I wuv it!
drawn in 46 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Hakkai (Mar 10, 2004)
Lol, just a weird thought came up and this is what happened! Overkilled it with the pink and purple.. and green. Ah well.
6 comments – latest 4:
furyofroy (Mar 10, 2004)
That is just... I love it. :D
You should draw more furries. Just to please me.
two-na (Mar 10, 2004)
haha, I like the hulk underoos. i think this is real neat line art
BaNdItAtTaCk1 (Mar 10, 2004)
My friend is always saying: "Spandex is a priviledge, not a right.." and it sure seemd that she's wrong when i look at this picture!
Neko (Mar 11, 2004)
Oh, poor guy. His expression is just so cute... I like the simple background.
drawn in 1 hour 16 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
ToraNeko (Mar 1, 2004)
Now isn't this just an awe inspering title? lol
37 comments – latest 4:
Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Reading all that arguing made me angry. Then I scrolled back up to see the picture and I got happy again! Such is the power of art.

I could just fall in love with this picture. Everything's there, all placed to it's right place making this a balanced masterpiece. The colours, lineart... heck, even the slight reflection on the water or how them fingers show through the water.

I like the original, felineish creature, as it reminds me of a fursona I created for my best friend. She, too, has horns and cat-like features and hooves. Even the hair-colour reminds of her. And am I bitching about copyrights? Hell no.~ Since it's said that a room with a hundred chimpanzees, given the time and typewriters, could type the whole Shakespeare productions, then why couldn't two people in this world come up with similar-looking characters? Not to say that they remind (as Marcello said) in any other real way that both are furries and have horns.

And if my comment starts the whole stupid, insensible whining all over again, I'm sorry in advance.
Alinnia (edited Mar 8, 2004)
'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice. Sure, it's a nice peice. The drawing is nice. The coloring is nice. The idea is nice. But the character design is not original... it's as simple as that. It disappoints me to see such uncreative artists... and irrisponsible moderators. It's irritating to know that the 'attitudes' of the DeviantArt Admin have migrated on to other sites that /seem/ to have so much potential...

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it. (Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.) If /I/ didn't think I was being ripped off, I wouldn't've said anything. Anything at all. ...

(And YES, ToraNeko, as a matter of fact, before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time, to make /sure/ our concepts are different than those around us... it's all part of our responsibility as designers... If you can't take on that responsibility... DON'T DO IT.)

And of COURSE the world is built on modifying different things. My character in and of himself must be made of at least 12 different concepts from existing characters from popular series'... but you'd never know. It IS a hybrid of 2 different animals.. animals aren't copyrighted.. however, within the thousands of combinations one /could/ have made with these animals, why should 2 designs look /that/ simliar at all? And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is. Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people. Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.

These sites no longer have my support. No funding. No art. No reccomendations. Only warnings to those who may wish to join. Don't post your ideas on these sites.. fan-wannabes /will/ steal them..

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen. Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
marcello (edited Mar 9, 2004)
All I can say is: OMG LMFAO

Find me some people who actually agree with you, because there sure are a lot of people who do not. Copyright law is not being broken here, so do not make it sound like someone is doing you a great injustice.

edit: at the expense of my linear algebra homework, I am gonna actually try replying to your message. Although I find it hard to stop laughing.

'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?
Despite what you might think, the moderators for a site are to help me, not you. No where do we claim to be artistic moderators or professionals in the field of critiquing or judging your pictures. We are not paid enough for that.

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice.
Sorry to take you away from your busy schedule. But aside from your effort to make yourself sound superior again, you really need to learn how to spell. A college student has no excuse for misspelling 8 words in something that short, especially with words such as "piece," "irresponsible," "field," "thoroughly," and so on. And none are typos.

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it.
First off, as we do not know of every character or drawing submitted on the internet, we really cannot do anything about pieces that no one says anything about. In this case, there is no relation at all between the characters to give you any case.

(Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.)
Then e-mail him and send him this link, and have him CC me a reply, I want to hear his opinion.

before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time
Care to share how one goes about doing this? How would someone find your design, for example, and know to avoid copying it? Search for "original furries with horns" on google?

And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.
Again, you continue to insult my intelligence. And though undeserving, I spent quite a bit of time looking over both of them, side-by-side to see if I could see what you meant. Alas I found quite the opposite, as I detailed in my previous messages.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.
Quite sad. Definitely not safe, in fact, you might even get a virus! *shocker* I want to find someone serious about their "practition." (P.s. I am mocking you here, because your b.s.ing is amusing.)

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is.
Do not support them, then. No one is forcing you.

Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people.
You realize you sound like a snob when you say that, right?

Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.
This is your problem, you are so caught up in the politics of it that you cannot do it for fun. 2draw is not a place to post your resume, it is to have fun drawing in one's spare time.

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen.
Wow, if something this "similar" is the worst that will happen when someone rips me off, I guess I should not be too worried about anything!

Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
I shudder at the thought.

And in conclusion, your design is not that great. I mean, come on, it is a furry.
Dainamo (Mar 9, 2004)
:3
Marcello... most people against furry art don't find originality in their peices... I've seen a few rants and such where furry artists feel 'unloved' as opposed to a person who copies 'anime' art
o.o *shrugs* But that's just me.. find one of those people supporting her? Well I'd be one :3
Watch as I end up on some.. hit list now or something x.x;;

.... and yis, Mr. Tiemann is very strict about such things... I doubt Alinnia will be stopping here anymore so I'll deliver him this postage and stuff, alrighties? :3

Sometimes I just wish some peeps would see eye to eye instead of thinking their views are always correct...
Although posting to the pic...
only thing I see wrong with it is the tongue... x.x Too red for my tastes.. other than that, it's a fine peice. If it was copy designed or not, I like it :3
drawn in 3 hours 26 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
Coo (Mar 7, 2004)
It is monstrous. UlvovaSilli inspired me to draw this.~
5 comments – latest 4:
foxman8245 (Mar 7, 2004)
yeppers, cute indeed.... blowin kisses :)
Fluffysheep (Mar 7, 2004)
Ahahaha ! That is soooo cute !! :3
Neko (Mar 8, 2004)
Heh, the cuteness. Like the expression.

Don't his pants look like they're kinda loose around the belt-department?
Coo (Mar 8, 2004)
Neko, I tried to make it look so. ;/
drawn in 50 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Zanthia (Mar 7, 2004)
Ehakisut on kivoja.
2 comments – latest 2:
Coo (Mar 7, 2004)
Duration 7 min. ;E I know you can do better than that.~
Neko (Mar 8, 2004)
Yeah, some effort, please.

The moderators won't probably look "useless" submits through fingers...
drawn in 7 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Coo (Mar 6, 2004)
My first oekaki ever, I was just practicing to use this thingy o_O
1 comment – latest 2:
Coo (Mar 6, 2004)
drawn in 2 min
Err, forgot eyebrows from the first one :(
Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Not bad at all... you've got a smooth way of drawing lineart, as well with the colouring. The hair looks a bit flat, maybe you should've added some more perspective to it? Now it looks kinda like a pancake thrown at his head...
drawn in 38 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Intermediate 
DieChan (Mar 1, 2004)
Wow. I have proven to myself that I CAN draw with a mouse. *cramp* This is a made up character playing DDR, the home version. You just can't see the pad... Anyway, I think it's pretty good for my returning pic from a mouse. I'm so used to a pen that I thought I couldn't do it.
2 comments – latest 2:
Neko (Mar 1, 2004)
Well, you seem to do excellent job with both tablet and mouse!

The only critic I can find is that her colours are blurry. Them pants are camouflage, true, but very undetermined ones, without real line with the different colours...

Enough about the little-boohoo, since I like this pic. Love her pose, clothes, and especially the stylish background.
Noremac (Mar 5, 2004)
i wish i had a tablet T.T i could actually pay attention to my artwork then rather than trrying to fix my mouse wheel :D
drawn in 35 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
craptastic_spaztic (Feb 28, 2004)
...
4 comments – latest 4:
jazzysinger (Feb 28, 2004)
why did you rate this 18+? but i like it, the colors, and the line drawing is fun.
dixielandcutie (Feb 29, 2004)
hehe, omg, im still laughing on this one...hehe. cuuute
ToraNeko (Feb 29, 2004)
AHAHAHA!!! *cluching sides from pain of laughter* Oh I really like the moon! But the little space dude has my heart, LOL!
Neko (Mar 1, 2004)
Holy s*it this is awesome. I'll never look at the nightsky with same eyes.
drawn in 1 hour 8 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Beginner 
Maiko (Feb 19, 2004)
it's only 2:27 AM ><
I REFUSE TO SLeepp...*slumps over*
6 comments – latest 4:
Fluffysheep (Feb 20, 2004)
You are great ! o_o 5 minutes ? I can't even draw this in an hour..heehee
concannon (Feb 21, 2004)
Haha, poor Mai. *pats*
Childlike_Vampire (Feb 22, 2004)
Five...minutes...*crumples in a heap* so re-mazing. ^_^
DieChan (Mar 1, 2004)
I totally agree with Neko. *nod nod* Damn your talent! *thinks* No... wait... don't. Then we couldn't see more pics from you... DAM! I'ma go try to draw wit a mouse now.
drawn in 5 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
 
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