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Public Boards/Beginner 
ky (Feb 24, 2004)
13+ for blood.

Look, it's an eye picture. With a whole head attached!
10 comments – latest 4:
DragonClaw (Feb 25, 2004)
sweet pic its awsome i love the colors of the eyes. of course i like all of ky's pics "ky you rock!".
strangeoid (Feb 25, 2004)
Good, but I actually know a guy who has cried blood... technically, he broke a blood vessel in a fight, but it was really gross... in a cool way.
lilypad (Feb 26, 2004)
marcello, what do u mean i'm slow? "
Marienkind (Mar 28, 2004)
"have mercy, child of another world?"

commenting on old stuff. that looks more like acid tears, being orange and all.
drawn in 15 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
DragonClaw and Noremac (Feb 8, 2004)
My good pal noremac will be assisting me in making the pupils look deeper and more angry (using fire) and i will be attempting some shading skills picked up from gigandas(thanks).
23 comments – latest 4:
Noremac (edited Feb 26, 2004)
i guess this is it..
fleeting_memory (Mar 1, 2004)
interesting-nice use of bold color-but he seems a little flat-or dimensionless(if that's a word) Nice fire in the eyes but somehow this picture disturbs me a bit ^^;;;
15grifficorntears (Mar 3, 2004)
HAHAHAHA...Jesus is out on a warpath!!!!
Jesus: I ain't f***ing around no more!!
LovelyLori (Mar 28, 2004)
I really like this....
drawn in 3 hours 49 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
ky (Jan 3, 2004)
'I can't tell where your love stands
Or where your love begins.'

Yeah, I kinda like this style of cheap shading.
3 comments – latest 3:
DragonClaw (Jan 3, 2004)
awsome sweet pic!!!
darkk_angel (Jan 4, 2004)
dude, seriously, you should post your works on (at least) the intermediate board.... Your proportions are awesome!! and I love the wings....
SaheraNights (Mar 14, 2004)
wow....reminds me of my life..
drawn in 27 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Specialty Boards/Collaborations 
DragonClaw, DieChan, Noremac, ky, Missy509, and more... (Jan 1, 2004)
if you wanna join just say so...
27 comments – latest 4:
15grifficorntears (Feb 21, 2004)
I wanna join ~wimper~
Noremac (Feb 22, 2004)
now rygals strait pimpin G. hell yeah thats nice
15grifficorntears (Feb 27, 2004)
drawn in 23 min
i did one......HURRAY!!
SaheraNights (edited Mar 14, 2004)
I wanna join..wait..i'm too late -cries-
drawn in 5 hours 2 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
ToraNeko (Mar 1, 2004)
Now isn't this just an awe inspering title? lol
37 comments – latest 4:
Neko (Mar 6, 2004)
Reading all that arguing made me angry. Then I scrolled back up to see the picture and I got happy again! Such is the power of art.

I could just fall in love with this picture. Everything's there, all placed to it's right place making this a balanced masterpiece. The colours, lineart... heck, even the slight reflection on the water or how them fingers show through the water.

I like the original, felineish creature, as it reminds me of a fursona I created for my best friend. She, too, has horns and cat-like features and hooves. Even the hair-colour reminds of her. And am I bitching about copyrights? Hell no.~ Since it's said that a room with a hundred chimpanzees, given the time and typewriters, could type the whole Shakespeare productions, then why couldn't two people in this world come up with similar-looking characters? Not to say that they remind (as Marcello said) in any other real way that both are furries and have horns.

And if my comment starts the whole stupid, insensible whining all over again, I'm sorry in advance.
Alinnia (edited Mar 8, 2004)
'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice. Sure, it's a nice peice. The drawing is nice. The coloring is nice. The idea is nice. But the character design is not original... it's as simple as that. It disappoints me to see such uncreative artists... and irrisponsible moderators. It's irritating to know that the 'attitudes' of the DeviantArt Admin have migrated on to other sites that /seem/ to have so much potential...

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it. (Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.) If /I/ didn't think I was being ripped off, I wouldn't've said anything. Anything at all. ...

(And YES, ToraNeko, as a matter of fact, before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time, to make /sure/ our concepts are different than those around us... it's all part of our responsibility as designers... If you can't take on that responsibility... DON'T DO IT.)

And of COURSE the world is built on modifying different things. My character in and of himself must be made of at least 12 different concepts from existing characters from popular series'... but you'd never know. It IS a hybrid of 2 different animals.. animals aren't copyrighted.. however, within the thousands of combinations one /could/ have made with these animals, why should 2 designs look /that/ simliar at all? And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is. Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people. Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.

These sites no longer have my support. No funding. No art. No reccomendations. Only warnings to those who may wish to join. Don't post your ideas on these sites.. fan-wannabes /will/ steal them..

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen. Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
marcello (edited Mar 9, 2004)
All I can say is: OMG LMFAO

Find me some people who actually agree with you, because there sure are a lot of people who do not. Copyright law is not being broken here, so do not make it sound like someone is doing you a great injustice.

edit: at the expense of my linear algebra homework, I am gonna actually try replying to your message. Although I find it hard to stop laughing.

'Artistic Moderator' also seems to be a popular oxymoron these days, eh, Marcello?
Despite what you might think, the moderators for a site are to help me, not you. No where do we claim to be artistic moderators or professionals in the field of critiquing or judging your pictures. We are not paid enough for that.

After a wonderfully busy weekend, and a successful college art sale... I have finally found the time to make my final comment on this peice.
Sorry to take you away from your busy schedule. But aside from your effort to make yourself sound superior again, you really need to learn how to spell. A college student has no excuse for misspelling 8 words in something that short, especially with words such as "piece," "irresponsible," "field," "thoroughly," and so on. And none are typos.

I really don't know if these 'programmers-turned-art-board-mods' understand what they've gotten themselves into. I know of many, hardworking, original character designers, many moving into the feild of animation, like myself, who constantly have their character designs copied and stolen, and the administration of the site do /nothing/ about it.
First off, as we do not know of every character or drawing submitted on the internet, we really cannot do anything about pieces that no one says anything about. In this case, there is no relation at all between the characters to give you any case.

(Some administration are MUCH better than others... Tiemann of the TLKFAA is rather strict about copyright laws... and he's well-respected for that.)
Then e-mail him and send him this link, and have him CC me a reply, I want to hear his opinion.

before most character designers come up with a new concept, we DO search the internet quite thuroughly to see what current designs are out there, and what is at the height of pop culture in the current time
Care to share how one goes about doing this? How would someone find your design, for example, and know to avoid copying it? Search for "original furries with horns" on google?

And when I say look at the image, I mean put both of them side-by-side and compare. NOT look at /one/ picture for two seconds, and then ('try to') look at the other for two seconds.. of course you're going to conclude and assume without looking.
Again, you continue to insult my intelligence. And though undeserving, I spent quite a bit of time looking over both of them, side-by-side to see if I could see what you meant. Alas I found quite the opposite, as I detailed in my previous messages.

It's sad that artists can't use the internet as a tool for their work, and not be safe. And when I say artists, I don't mean the fanboys, fangirls, and wannabes that frequent these sites. I mean the artists who know what they're doing. The serious ones who plan on doing this as a career for the rest of their lives. Not some little hobby that they do once in awhile. It's sad that those serious about their practition have to be cautious about what they do, and what they post, in fear of the concept of those who can't seem to reach beyond what they see right in front of them.
Quite sad. Definitely not safe, in fact, you might even get a virus! *shocker* I want to find someone serious about their "practition." (P.s. I am mocking you here, because your b.s.ing is amusing.)

Personally, I don't think these sites should be supported anymore. No 2draw. No DeviantArt. No Elfwood. No VCL. No mass-oriented art sites at all in existance. There are too many fan-wannabes that look through them... wannabes that just don't appreciate originality for what it is.
Do not support them, then. No one is forcing you.

Private galleries are the way to go, and I can assure you that artists DO NOT need any of these silly sites to get exposure, or to share their art with other people.
You realize you sound like a snob when you say that, right?

Sure, I thought it was fun in the beginning... but now it's just out of hand. Moderators are irrisponsible... most 'members' and 'critics' even moreso... equality is null.
This is your problem, you are so caught up in the politics of it that you cannot do it for fun. 2draw is not a place to post your resume, it is to have fun drawing in one's spare time.

And those who haven't had their ideas ripped-off yet? ... Watch. It'll happen.
Wow, if something this "similar" is the worst that will happen when someone rips me off, I guess I should not be too worried about anything!

Then you'll know how /I/ feel.
I shudder at the thought.

And in conclusion, your design is not that great. I mean, come on, it is a furry.
Dainamo (Mar 9, 2004)
:3
Marcello... most people against furry art don't find originality in their peices... I've seen a few rants and such where furry artists feel 'unloved' as opposed to a person who copies 'anime' art
o.o *shrugs* But that's just me.. find one of those people supporting her? Well I'd be one :3
Watch as I end up on some.. hit list now or something x.x;;

.... and yis, Mr. Tiemann is very strict about such things... I doubt Alinnia will be stopping here anymore so I'll deliver him this postage and stuff, alrighties? :3

Sometimes I just wish some peeps would see eye to eye instead of thinking their views are always correct...
Although posting to the pic...
only thing I see wrong with it is the tongue... x.x Too red for my tastes.. other than that, it's a fine peice. If it was copy designed or not, I like it :3
drawn in 3 hours 26 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
cursive (Feb 22, 2004)
My second drawing at 2draw . I think I need to improve on some things but i like how the bg came out ^^;
8 comments – latest 4:
Alicia (Feb 23, 2004)
Great comic pic! :)
SaheraNights (Feb 24, 2004)
Cosmo: WANDA! Wanda?! -pokes at monitor- WHY WONT SHE ANSWER ME! WANDA NO! -cries-

Haha you need a pic of Cosmo I love that Momma's BoY!
DragonClaw (Feb 24, 2004)
i love this picture you did very good. mabey you could draw one with wanda cosmo and timmy all together that would rock!!!
15grifficorntears (Mar 6, 2004)
you should do Durgan von Stranglestien.
drawn in 2 hours 33 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DieChan (Mar 1, 2004)
Inspired by Pinkuespeon's old Eevee pic. Um... C&C. That' all I have to say. Pure pen and watercolors.
6 comments – latest 4:
15grifficorntears (Mar 4, 2004)
awww. poor Umbreon looks sad. he shouldn't because HE WILL KICK EVERYONES ASS!!! (even Flareon's 8P)
Maiko (Mar 5, 2004)
i agree with grifficorntears XD
Deformed (Mar 5, 2004)
No! You agree with me!! *yanks wasil to my side*
DieChan (Mar 6, 2004)
Shall I do a battle of the Eons pic for you two?
drawn in 42 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
15grifficorntears (Feb 29, 2004)
i'm starting my favorite subject.......Dragons!
7 comments – latest 4:
oversoul_trump (Feb 29, 2004)
Wow, this is really good! I'm surprised this isn't in the intermediate section! I agree with Gigandas, it would look better with a long, narrow eye, and it would also look better if it had smoother lines XD just my opinion :P
ToraNeko (Feb 29, 2004)
Really? I kinda like the Round eye, dead cleepy that way, but cool. I love the shading, but I don't think the BG does it justice
fleeting_memory (Mar 1, 2004)
haha schweet I like dragons-best thing about fantasy creatures is that they can look however you want and it will never be wrong! Keep drawing dragons
Noremac (Mar 4, 2004)
DnD allows artists to aspire :)
drawn in 1 hour 15 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
SaheraNights (Mar 2, 2004)
This is just practice..for fun
6 comments – latest 4:
SaheraNights (Mar 2, 2004)
glad ya like it! ^.^ You know Rikku I was just practicing and i was sleepy then..so yeah it was sloppy % -confuzzled- But thanks for the advice
cursive (Mar 3, 2004)
i like it ,really nice shape of the face & hair , but i think it would have looked good with the blue bg :D but thats just me
Deformed (Mar 3, 2004)
Sorry. I was just triing to help you.
SaheraNights (Mar 3, 2004)
I know Rikku and I appreciate it alot! ^.^ thanxies! glad you like it Dragonclaw and Cursive!
drawn in 22 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Intermediate 
hannah_banana_2002 (Mar 1, 2004)
On all my time here I draw lousy and half ass (excuse the foul language) drawings. I really wanna try my best on this one walk in a park, inspired by a short story.
7 comments – latest 4:
morbidboblover (Mar 2, 2004)
Wow, I love the shadowing and the dress all togeather
davincipoppalag (Mar 2, 2004)
I like how this finshed.. nicely drawn ..I like the clouds and the fence
DragonClaw (Mar 2, 2004)
i like this pic alot because the shape of the body is perfect and the clouds look sooooo real. love it ^^.
dixielandcutie (Mar 3, 2004)
you did a wonderful job!
drawn in 1 hour 19 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
 
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