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Trying a bit more than a head this time since I have all this canvas space in the advanced section. I'm just going to try to copy the photo directly this time as closely as possible.
http://www.kristiaknowles.net/images/gallery/fitness/fit2.jpg

I'm not sure I'll get anywhere. Thanks all for the encouragement.

[Edit] This is the opposite of what I'm striving to do artistically as my goal is to draw more loosely from references (using information from the reference to make a completely different picture, not drawing the reference) and ultimately without needing references at all, but I wanted to try a shot at being unpainterly and more photorealistic: the antethesis of what I've been trying to do. To get the line drawing and major landmarks as accurately as possible, I initially started with a grid for the line drawing. This allowed me to shade and color more loosely without worrying about correcting inaccuracies from the previous stages. I don't think I quite got there as I still got lazy on the shading and didn't quite interpret the values correctly. It looks correct sized down, but not up close.

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Zack (Apr 5, 2006)

You might find it an interesting exercise to take a ref and try drawing it at a different angle. As soon as I have more free time I intend to make a number of drawings that are loosely referenced like that; maybe they have the same angle but different lighting, or they have different shading styles, etc. Personally, I see loose references as training wheels and strict references as crutches, but that's in terms of my own artistic goals and not a criticism of other artists here. In light of your goals, I'd say dropping the grid system is probably a good idea.

comd (edited Apr 5, 2006)

Modifying angles, lighting, or the original 3D form of the reference is the kind of stuff I'd like to ultimately do when using references. Just anything that demands the 3D form is understood so that it could be used to produce other 3D forms is what would benefit me most. I tend to be more 2D-oriented when copying photos regardless of whether I'm using measuring devices or just freehanding, and that's useful for copying 2D images, but not for inventing 3D ones. I tend to ask questions like, "what's the 2D shape of this highlight? How does it relate vertically and horizontally to this other mark?" Rather than, "what's the 3D form of this figure"? If I understood the 3D form, then I could invent my own highlights without using the precise shapes in the photograph.

I pretty much knew this picture wasn't what I should have been doing when I started on it based on my goals, regardless of the grid (though the grid made it that much worse). I set out only to draw the reference as accurately as possible and nothing more. In that sense, it's one of my biggest failures since that's the last thing I want to be doing in the future as I progress. I didn't even try to experiment with painterly techniques - I was trying to be as unpainterly as possible in this one so that it would look just like a photo. Generally I get the most comments about the painterly aspects of my works when working from photos, but this time I really wanted to try not being painterly (I tend to be painterly for economical purposes, not intentionally). I didn't even really achieve the photorealism I intended to achieve despite the use of the grid for the line drawing, so I didn't even succeed in that respect. While it's completely against my personal goals, I still admire the artists on here who can make their paintings look just like a photograph. I was hoping to achieve it here, but I think I deviated too much in the shading and still relied too much on lines which gave that sort of cartoony effect in places.

frootcake (Apr 6, 2006)

omg biggest posts ever. great pic and i've been a victim of the grid in the past. when the masters of the past were working on frescoes - they couldn't draw straight from life, so they did their preliminary drawing and they would grid that whole wall up before doing some of the greatest paintings ever made, theres no shame :):)

HunterKiller_ (Apr 7, 2006)

Mmm... (damn you essay writters.)

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Sky Blood

patienceisoverrated (Apr 1, 2006)

I had PLANS for this...

unfortunately, they didn't work out.

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101_Torchic_101 (Apr 5, 2006)

(0,0) Woah, this is cool. When I first saw this, I had to comment..Cool clouds, the skeleton-guys are awesome =D

mikron (Apr 5, 2006)

This is very uinque and well done. :)

patienceisoverrated (Apr 5, 2006)

thanks y'all :)

Childlike_Vampire (Apr 7, 2006)

This is really awesome, a great refreshing combonation on the eyes. Really gives the feel of outdoors, and the comicy goodness on the bottom rocks. Great drawing!!

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Cherika (Apr 6, 2006)

This is my first here. I'm a reeaaally slow drawer...and I got lazy...Well anyways...yeah. =3

Oh wait, I don't normally draw this slow, I'm on a laptop XD I am that slow a thinker though...hehe

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Emichi (Apr 7, 2006)

So pretty! @_@ It's gourgeous, waaaAAAAaaay better then my first drawing here and on a laptop too?! Wowzers...well, can't wait for more and welcome to 2draw!

xiau (Apr 7, 2006)

Very cute! I could never have done anything like this when I first got here.
You're doing really well with Lascaux already! It took me up until now to figure anything at all out in Lascaux PX

Welcome to 2Draw!

xiang (edited Apr 7, 2006)

:O so pretty! That's a great way to start off at 2Draw! Welcome to our community, and may the force be with you for future works!

Cherika (Apr 7, 2006)

Aw, thanks everyone.

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Mousey =)

lamamo (Apr 5, 2006)

A cute little mouse, yeah :)

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Deino (Apr 5, 2006)

Very cute indeed :D

lamamo (Apr 6, 2006)
drawn in 12 min

:( i cant do backgrounds so its finished

LisaAnne (Apr 6, 2006)

I like the shape.

Miss_DJ (Apr 6, 2006)

what a cutie! nice job!

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sierra mayliin

hottie-girl (Apr 6, 2006)

i was bored i tried to make my own naruto character but i think it ish lame i didnt do to well and plz be critics

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DoOp (Apr 6, 2006)

awww she's cute =)

hurm, things to fix on this, by what I see >_>

I *personally* cannot stand the white spots at all @_@ an easier way to colour other then the fill bucket, hmm layerrr =D draw on layer one and colour on layer 0, it helps alot and makes it look neater :) the ears seems to be off a bit, i'd say lower the right one down and make the right eye a tiny bit smaller, so it matches the other other eye

adding shading to this would also be cute =) hehe

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solve (Apr 6, 2006)

Would anyone happen to have a picture of the glass mural that shatters in the movie "house on haunted hill"? Ive searched all over google, couldnt find one. Also, anyone talented in realism i have a request. Would anyone be willing to paint me?

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chan2005 (Apr 4, 2006)

Videogame inspired image (particularly one called Rez - an audio-visual extravaganza!), complete with naked flying polygon person. hope to add some more stuff cus it looks real empty atm

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chan2005 (Apr 4, 2006)

lol just typed 'Rez Orgasm Game' into google. Damn there goes all my credibility. Yeah, I think Rez is pretty funky. The Tron-like graphical style and whole idea of tying music, gameplay and visuals together is coolio.

Renuar (Apr 4, 2006)

good idea chan. looks ultra

LisaAnne (Apr 6, 2006)

I didn't read anything you wrote, but I like this. It tickles. Its visually appealing and different.

frootcake (edited Apr 6, 2006)

lol pwned by lisa. damn i wana draw something in this style. a few more pics and you'l be one of my faves on the site in no less that 10 drawings! you bitch!

btw the thumbnail looks cool too :)

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Kasha (Apr 4, 2006)

HELLO!!!

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fleeting_memory (Apr 5, 2006)

Its Kasha! Knew it was yours fromt the thumbnail

Pakasutemanshikuka (Apr 6, 2006)

Aaah! Finally some art from my alltimefavouriteartist :B~

I am in love with the face! It is just brilliant XD!

frootcake (Apr 6, 2006)

how did you spend the money from that painting you sold? we all know thats what you've been doign all this time. hope you had a good time with it.
this pic is like a chalk life drawing, its really fresh and inter--- i really can't think of the word i wana say, i've been sat here 5mins tryin to remember, im sorry. i do like the pic tho :)

DoOp (Apr 6, 2006)

I looked at your drawings and homg, they're all so good =) i love your art <3<3<3 and as everyone else says, welcome back =D