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GERUZYDRAGON (Apr 10, 2004)
this is a picture of a shark. SHARKs are pretty easy to draw.
2 comments – latest 2:
DinoFlorist (Apr 10, 2004)
hahahaha! Too funny. Sharks ARE easy to draw!
foxman8245 (Apr 12, 2004)
same goes for this one... unless your age is in the pre-teen, Im sure you would do really good without the line and fill tools.
drawn in 12 min with PaintBBS
Public Boards/Intermediate 
15grifficorntears (Apr 8, 2004)
I LOVE SILVER DRAGONS!!!!!!!!
8 comments – latest 4:
Gigandas (Apr 12, 2004)
You draw some nice dragons, grifficorn......I personally like the one in the far back a lot with it's entire body in the picture.I wanna see more of them so don't stop :).
Noremac (edited Apr 12, 2004)
DnD dragons are teh |33t $h1zN@t
Destervetha (May 12, 2004)
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Deathaisha (May 17, 2004)
Yep dose things rule....I wuv it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drawn in 3 hours 33 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
evil_cloud (Apr 10, 2004)
we are puppets, and we will be that forever, always tied to our life like with cables, like puppets
7 comments – latest 4:
lp_phaery (Apr 10, 2004)
I like puppets, I like this. Its very kewl/cool.
DinoFlorist (Apr 10, 2004)
Yes, that is a good overall picture because it says something and its nicely drawn. However, I am not a fan of repeating words all over the place, although I did it once. I've regretted it every day since!
evil_cloud (Apr 11, 2004)
well.... thanks ^o^!!
tappie_chan (Apr 11, 2004)
what a cute puppet! i want one!
drawn in 34 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Beginner 
Ixbalam (Apr 10, 2004)
o/` Rubber ducky, you're the one
Who makes bathtime lots of fun... o/`

Just noodling around.
2 comments – latest 2:
davincipoppalag (Apr 10, 2004)
Lol this is very cute..
DinoFlorist (Apr 10, 2004)
Agreed! Quite funny. It's good to see more drawings of cool things like ducks, and less of people with their faces bleeding.
drawn in 37 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
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Knockoff (Mar 13, 2004)
Decided to post this./.......
O_O
5 comments – latest 4:
Deformed (Apr 10, 2004)
Awesome job on teh skin tones Ko. Realy nice. 'Cept one ear looks kinda weird. Other then that, It rocks.
DinoFlorist (Apr 10, 2004)
actually both ears are weird, because ears are generally the size of your nose. Start them where you started them, but then make the ears go down to where the nose ends and I think they will look more normal. Other than that, it's a good job!
davincipoppalag (Apr 10, 2004)
The eyes are cool too,but they look about twice the size they should be?
Knockoff (Apr 10, 2004)
Davinci -Yes, I know they eyes are really big. Thats sort of wh yI put O_O Up there, lol.
Dino - Yeah, Both ears are to small, I started and decided to leave them that way.
But thanks everyone.~ :)
drawn in 1 hour 57 min with PaintBBS
evil_cloud (Apr 10, 2004)
a pic where I show ppl tht have made bad comments on my drawings... but i have seen its not only on me...

I decided to do this pic to revenge!!! >:) PH33R M3!!


character of my left: RavioloiTheDancingClown
chanracte of my right: Axil62
12 comments – latest 4:
Marienkind (Apr 10, 2004)
"Probably better than the ones they didn't like!"

didn't like this
this too.

I won't comment on your skill, because the issue was more or less about your style preference, anime, while your critics favor realism. It's not really fair though to critique a picture about not looking realistic when it wasn't meant to look that way.
tappie_chan (Apr 10, 2004)
ahahahahahhaahaahaaaaa!!!!! thats great!
the perspective and composition are really good, and i love the lineart and the way its colored. yay! good job, and just look at all the comments! *tappie is envious*
evil_cloud (Apr 11, 2004)
Loolollololol!

do u know wut, Ravioloi has deleted the comments he made on my drawings.... but i think i wont delete this drawing, cos he did in other ppl too! >:(
bumpinthenight (May 26, 2004)
Hehe... Great drawing... But I do have one question... How come people congratulate you on your bashing of the bastards here at 2draw, whilst I got nicked for it?!?! Yaargh.... Tis ok though... Noone really knows what my prior accounts were... :P
drawn in 27 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Specialty Boards/Collaborations 
mazi and Childlike_Vampire (Mar 14, 2004)
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9 comments – latest 4:
Deathaisha (May 12, 2004)
dragons my favorite mythical creature!I really like this
15grifficorntears (May 12, 2004)
DRAGON! that is a sexy dragon you got there.
Childlike_Vampire (May 12, 2004)
Thanks you for teh comments!

And thanks for teh offer Destervetha, but methinks it's finished. Mebbe he's a salamander dragon, huh, ever think about that? lmao. :D So no! You cannot! I don't think it cries out for it...lol

Forgive me bluntness, I are trying to be funneh. ^_^
bumpinthenight (Jun 8, 2004)
R0x0rz me boxorz, you two do! Meahahahhaha.... *theives the dragon* Wheee!
drawn in 1 day 2 hours with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
laurael (Apr 8, 2004)
April was 'trying' to be in a 'serious' picture...
(they came out better than 'she' did...oh well...)
10 comments – latest 4:
DinoFlorist (Apr 10, 2004)
Wow, laurel, this is really good! I think this one is the best one you've done in recent memory. Wow, wow, it's really awesome.
Fluffysheep (Apr 10, 2004)
Yayyy it's The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles !!! This pic rocks ! ^______^ Nice coloring too ;)
DonkeyKO (Apr 24, 2004)
Poor April.
laurael (May 18, 2004)
This one is still a favorite....'love' how they came out...
drawn in 5 hours 13 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DinoFlorist (Apr 9, 2004)
Now there is evidence to support all of our conversation on file size, Icats! Same amount of time, both one layer, same program, canvas size, evrything. Btw, since you are a cat, this dog is gonna get you.
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marcello (Apr 10, 2004)
There's no "going into" about it, I made the system, I should know how it works. =P
Let me explain a little more in detail.
Ok first off, the number one affect on file size is the size of your canvas. If you draw large images, you'll take up more space, simple as that.
On 2draw, for each image you have a number of different files. You have the full quality PNG, an optional compressed JPG version (only if it is smaller than the PNG), then 3 different thumbnails (PNG or JPG, whichever is smaller, typically JPG is). Then for each version, you will have 2 small thumbnail versions (which are probably a rather small % of the image total space), and either a JPG or PNG copy of the version (whichever is smaller). Then last of all, you have a format specific to the applet.

As I said above, a PNG version is stored with every image, PNG is lossless compression. Take BMP, one of the simplest image formats around, for each pixel 4 bytes of space are used, so a 400x400 image will use 640KB, uncompressed. Now, PNG will actually compress the information considerably by taking regions of solid color that is, the exact same RGB for a rectangular block of area, and compress it quite well. This means a completely black image at 400x400 can compress to less than 1KB. However, if from one pixel to the next, the color changes (such as with a gradient, soft, or antialiased lines), it can barely compress that at all, and in the absolute worst case (where every single pixel is different across the canvas), your PNG file will approach that 640KB size of the BMP.
JPG on the other hand, is lossy and can compress images better by taking approximations of the image.

For the most part, the PNG and JPG files do not take enough space to cause a problem.

What hits you is the applet-specific format. On PaintBBS, Shi-Painter, and OekakiBBS, an 'animation' file is recorded, which is essentially a recording of each x,y pair of each drawing stroke. This is not really comparable to a video format (which would make huge files). The number of layers, size of strokes, number of undos, etc. all have no effect on the animation file. The amount of time you spend on a picture does not affect the animation size other than by the number of strokes. If you just leave the image open, nothing is recorded. In addition, this is compressed, generally creating a rather small image (less than 100KB) even for extremely elaborate files. So, the number of strokes will in fact affect the animation size, but you need to do a lot of strokes before it becomes significant.

The main difference is on Lascaux Sketch, which uses a bitmap format rather than animation. Lascaux Sketch's LSD format (quite comparable in size and features to Photoshop's PSD) stores the equivalent of a PNG file for each layer into one file. So in this case, the number of strokes, the amount of time, size of brush, etc. does not affect the end file size by any means. However, the size of the canvas, the number of layers, and complexity of the image (read the bit above about how PNG compresses images) all affect the end result.

There are pros and cons to both methods. On average, the bitmap format Lascaux Sketch uses is much larger than an equivalent image stored in animation format. So, from a server standpoint, animation is better. However, the cons of animation format is 1) when you want to resume an image, you have to wait for the computer to "rebuild" the image from the animation so that all the layers are preserved. 2) it is much harder to make a 'stable' animation format. If the animation data gets corrupted or stored incorrectly anywhere in the image, everything after that point will either be completely lost or just turn out plain wrong. In the case of the bitmap format, it is really a matter of what-you-see-is-what-you-get. The layers you had when you saved/submitted your image will turn up exactly as you had when you load it again.

An animation format for Lascaux Sketch has been made, but is currently incomplete (does not support a lot of layer operations, selections, text, and so on), meaning the image would not load back up as you drew it.
evil_cloud (edited Apr 11, 2004)
i like this, and i ask, why thrumbnails of this kind of pics rock so much?


PS: LOL MARCELLO -100 points for so long comment ^^U
davincipoppalag (Apr 11, 2004)
Gives Marcello 200 points for the informative dissertation.. thanks..
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 11, 2004)
Um, yeah, okay. I comprehended like two sentences of that stuff. You just build it, I'll just play with it. :)
drawn in 11 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Beginner 
DMV
DMV (Apr 8, 2004)
OK....OK.... had to do kinda of a self portait ,my style but yet look something like me... I have a couple of b/w pics
and i put them on a paint program and added horns ,sharps teeth, shade and blood ( this was a couple of years ago) but this is as close to me as i can draw:) my wife says i don't make friends easy cause i always look mean. lol!
9 comments – latest 4:
DinoFlorist (Apr 8, 2004)
You looked ripped as shit. Can you get all those muscles from drawing?!
DMV (Apr 8, 2004)
um.... does that mean we can be friends anyone? lol!
dixielandcutie (Apr 8, 2004)
a course! i've always wanted a friend with laser eyes and horns! (lol, i was thinking the same thing dino, ;p)
davincipoppalag (Apr 8, 2004)
DMV said he did alot of free weights in "that place" .lol.....
drawn in 47 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
 
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