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gerbear (Apr 3, 2006)
New here. Would welcome advice on the hair. Used the blender and set the opacity low, but it still looks really fake.
gerbear (Apr 3, 2006)
drawn in 2 hours 1 min
davincipoppalag (Apr 3, 2006)
She was wearing a wig, no worries. I sent you a memo with some links...
gerbear (Apr 3, 2006)
Hi Sweets(One)...I really had no idea how much work you had done here. i am so sunk. Last time i couldn't work the draw programs, this time for some reason it is coming easily. Except UNDO *L*

davinci...so? So? how is the drawing? It is hard not to be paranoid among all you brilliant artists! Thanks for the wig comment, I laffed.
davincipoppalag (Apr 3, 2006)
I don't know much about the art stuff, but I can tell you what I see. To me, the proportions and shapes look right. The lighting looks like one of those solarization photographs, it's interesting to see. I am looking forward to what you draw when you get used to using the applets here.
gerbear (Apr 3, 2006)
Thanks davinci. Too many youdraw drawings! No mid tones *L* So I come here and draw like i am there!

Sweetcell..I did the small brush and the antialais..did set opacity low but I guess it needed to be lower. I find straight hair harder than curly anyhow. Dunno if I will attempt much realism here..everyone is too far ahead, plus I do it for work. My guess is..i will work on my patterns in color and try to see if I can do the MARSHAS WORLD series and also the COSMIC GODDESS series in color. Not sure either will lend themselves to it. Anyhow..love ya girl! *hugs*
Rosemary (Apr 3, 2006)
hi...great draw ...when i came to this site from youdraw (2 years ago i believe) i dont think i'd ever really drawn in colour before :s....took ages to get used to but...looks like you're doing really well allready :) ...and keep at it! im sure you'll soon be as addicted to the site as i am lol :P
Artiste (Apr 4, 2006)
the modeling of the body looks really good, and I like the way it's painted, and the color choices too... nice job.

As far as the hair, I would look at photos of long straight blonde hair to gain understanding, but my first inclination would be to say that using long thin lines often will make hair look like straw. Thick patches of color is really more what hair looks like, with a few details here and there...
comd (edited Apr 4, 2006)
Very nice - the highlights on the back are great. I agree with Artiste completely about rendering hair. I'm not very good at it myself and tend to be lazy when it comes to hair, but as with painting anything with a lot of texture, it's best to start with a larger brush first and render the volumes accurately. After that, you can go in with the smaller brush and paint in the details. If the volumes are rendered correctly, you can improvise quite a bit at this stage rather than slaving over the details. However, I'd avoid trying to render every single strand. A small number of good strokes with some highlights and shadows should properly suggest the detail of the individual hair strands without requiring the meticulous work of rendering each and every one (which tends to look overworked).
emmamommalag (edited Apr 4, 2006)
Just pretend she's wearing a wig. There are some good hair tutorials on here someplace. It's a nice drawing... kinda looks like a woman-shaped popsicle. :)
gerbear (Apr 4, 2006)
Thanks so MUCH everyone for taking the time to look at this draw. The hair info was helpful. I can do hair in pencil or with paintbrush but it confounds me on the puter. I will be checking out everyones gallery over the next few weeks as time permits. :) Emma, i see exactly what you mean! That made me laff also.
tandrew971 (edited Apr 3, 2008)
love this gerbear
Gigandas (Apr 4, 2006)
Adding on to what the other's have mentioned, I think hair also tends to look more natural when you have stray strands of hairs going around; whether you want to go crazy with the strays are up to you though ;). Anyway, besides the highlighting in stray hairs, thinning them out as well as making them look rather transparent in some parts of the hair, actually make them look rather natural. At least that's what I've learned attempting a lot of realism.

i, personally, like to start hair with the darkest base (unless I'm doing really light blond hair). Just get the general shape of the hair down in the darkest color you find on the hair. Then you start working towards the lightest colors from that dark base, and once you've reached the lightest color, you're usually doing the more detailed strands of hair. I'd try just to imply them really, as opposed to doing every strand (sometimes I'll set it to a 0px brush, which still draws btw, and just loosely go back and forth on a low opacity until it looks the way I want it to). Always look for the slightest hints in color variation too. That always makes the overall look very nice and enjoyable to view. Good luck with that :).

Btw, I like how organic her back looks with just those highlights you got there.
gerbear (Apr 4, 2006)
tandrew great to see you here! Thanks. Gigandas thanks for the advice too. I might just do a few all hair pics to try to get the hang of it. In pencil it comes easily to me. I think the fact that I can only go 1 pixel and that is jes not small enuff! I should have realized really low opacity would make it seem thinner too. I will probably spend a week looking at all of your galleries and reading comments to get a feel for this place. I love it so far. :)
Gigandas (Apr 4, 2006)
Ooh, just noticed this is drawn on Lascaux....yeah, Shi-Painter goes all the way down to 0px (very very thin brush, which I love), which really help with the minute details. Well, at least the opacity should help some :). And if you choose to be a perfectionist about wanting it thin and crisp, you can always scrape away at your lines with the eraser tool, but I dunno if you wanna go quite that far; I wouldn't blame you if you didn't, hehe :).
gerbear (Apr 4, 2006)
gigandas...I have drawn around 2000 draws on YOUDRAW!!! All i have done for a year and a half is scrape away lines! I am more than willing to do whatever it takes to get the effect i want. thanks so much :)

Sweet..drawing online is aging me fast! :)
Zack (Apr 5, 2006)
Assuming you mean the 0px pen tool in Shi-painter and not the 0px other tools (which just draw an aliased 1px line), Lascaux can now draw lines that thin or better. Shi-painter does not have sub-pixel accuracy, which Lascaux now has. To get a similar effect of very thin lines in Lascaux, use a 1px brush and lower the opacity and flow and be sure to zoom in so that you get the smoothest line possible.

BTW, that control in Shi-painter is actually a flow control, not an opacity control.
gerbear (Apr 5, 2006)
Zack, I cannot get the UNDO command to work in Lascaux. Someone suggested you could possibly help? I would prefer using Lascaux, it is more like Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop, but without an UNDO command it is a pain. So far the other commands work fine. Please, suggestions?
Zack (Apr 5, 2006)
Weird. Are you clicking the button next to Submit or using the History window? Alternatively try pressing CTRL-Z. Try getting it to work on a new canvas by doodling some random lines and then trying to undo them. Also, the undo history isn't saved between revisions, if that's an issue. What does happen when you click undo, if anything?
gerbear (edited Apr 5, 2006)

I figured it out. The storage space for UNDO was set to 20b. That would not cover jes a whole lotta undos!! I set it to 1000mb and now all is happy in 2Drawland. :)

gerbear (Apr 15, 2006)
drawn in 7 min
gerbear (Apr 15, 2006)
drawn in 27 min
I reworked the hair and it looks more natural now I think. I didn't realize you could go back into a "finished" drawing.
tandrew971 (Apr 20, 2006)
i really like that about this site..being able to go and fix something even after its finished. the hair looks great (as does the rest)
Meno (Mar 7, 2008)
Whaddaya talkin' 'bout? I like the hair .... like golden strands of wheat.
QTgillie (Jun 23, 2009)
i think how the hair is finalized is fabulous.
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