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Axil62 (Jan 21, 2015)
14 comments – latest 4:
davincipoppalag (Jan 26, 2015)
Me neither
enjoydotcom (Jan 28, 2015)
Axil, I had an essay typed out why I disagree with you. But it would only fuel the situation.
I'll keep it short by saying that Dorothy needs help, and silently agreeing with her will probably only make things worse.

As for the site maintenance, I haven't been able to draw here for a long time now. But same goes for any Java operated online applet. It wouldn't surprise me if the problem lied more with my old neglected laptop than either 2draw or Java...
Axil62 (Jan 28, 2015)
Ah... and jabbing her and mocking her... that might bring about a positive for her. Got it. That was really stupid even for you.

Yes, I know you haven't been able to draw here for a long time... exactly as long as Marcello hasn't been interested in updating the site to play nicely with the newer version of java. I'm not saying he is required to do a damn thing because he is not. What we can say however is that he has chosen to abandon the site, it happens all the time.

As far as "Same goes for any Java operated applet." goes, you can go into settings and manually tell whatever version of java you have not to freak out about 2draw, to "trust" it and you can draw again, just not with Jtablet.
estelleparson (edited Feb 7, 2015)
( DOROTHYBLUEEYES) thank you, Axil, i appreciate it. I just want to know", if you own a site, isn't it your responsibility to keep up maintenance? or, get someone else to do it for you?Marcello could do that, cause he has real work, & is too busy." Why not? But if it's not maintained much, the other users have a right to say,"its not cared for."Marcello could give duties to someone else.

I have found out lately, that "web-site-camraderie & support" does not really amt. to much, espec. from groups.Most people on a site tend to blow people off, easily,cuz,there's no real friendships; just "acquaintenances. So you don't have to care about fellow site-members; they're not real!!They are just unreal specks of electricity. Kind of like driving a car in huge traffic; you don't know these people!! Why be considerate?

my repair guy put java 7 back on my 'puter, he fixed it.Only way it works.And it works great; just keep turning down no. 8!!Marcello was very nice, said he didn't do anything diff. to the site, so it should still work.

But it's easy to "jabb and mock" other members, when they can't throw a real punch, at you, in cyberspace.--or run their car into you, for insults. SAFE, isn't it? especially in gangs. I actually have seen SO MANY people on websites do this, it seems to be the norm.Yes, Marcello has abandoned the site cuz his other jobs are more important to him.Axel is right.Yeah, would be nice if M. got a friend to maintain 2draw for him.This was always a great site!! Why not take some trouble to keep it up?(I don't know if version 8 DOES play nicely with oekakis; "", which is a huge site, bigger than this, has operated very well.that's where thousands of young people go.I never had problems with it(any of us can become members).Some other older oekakis won't take 8 either.

Axel, you are seeing the Internet site sickness called, "anonymously gang up on one member, " and crap on them.They're too CHICKEN to do it alone; they need their "gang" for support, so they can do it.Happens on 1,000's of sites.Never saw it here before.Marcello DID let this site literally go to the dogs!!But, yes, it usually means the sites' disintegrating. NO moderators.

Well-run sites often have moderators, cause otherwise all the behavior gets outta control.When there is no moderators, to control "polite behavior" on a site, it runs amuck.Anyone says,or does, anything, and its the end of any communication except insults.People stop going there, or just no longer communicate/or they all fight all the time. It gets haunted by "fight-lovers". --everyone else leaves, Ask me how many sites i've seen, do that."NO-LONGER-EXISTING SITES."
drawn in 31 min with Lascaux Sketch
Public Boards/Intermediate 
mudbutt (Jan 22, 2015)
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lori (Jan 24, 2015)
also love!
firecracker (Jan 24, 2015)
This is really beautiful and unique....I LUV it!! If you stare at it for awhile....then close your'll see a cool image....:)
Kloxboy (Jan 28, 2015)
This would go well with a few hits of acid.
mudbutt (Jan 28, 2015)
I agree, though I think it would be cooler if it were painted across the ceiling for people to see while they're tripping.
drawn in 37 min with Lascaux Sketch
Main Forums/The Post Board 
Chinese lurkers
Axil62 (Jan 21, 2015)
Remember a while back when we were flooded with those Chinese 'visitors' that never drew or commented? Well it looks like they're starting up again. WTF do they want?
Public Boards/Advanced 
beefcake619 (Jan 13, 2015)
Perhaps ill finish it.
4 comments – latest 4:
davincipoppalag (Jan 14, 2015)
It's rather nice as it sits
davincipoppalag (Jan 15, 2015)
even better
Teapot (Jan 18, 2015)
Love the light. Hope you finish it.
firecracker (Jan 22, 2015)
It looks cool just the way it is......I likey!! :)
drawn in 1 hour 39 min with Chibipaint
Specialty Boards/Contest! 
mudbutt (Jan 13, 2015)
2 comments – latest 2:
davincipoppalag (Jan 14, 2015)
Ice crystals on the edge shallow water
Teapot (Jan 18, 2015)
Just what I was going to say.
drawn in 26 min with Lascaux Sketch
Public Boards/Intermediate 
davincipoppalag (Jan 16, 2015)
just scribbling
7 comments – latest 4:
davincipoppalag (Jan 17, 2015)
Teapot (Jan 18, 2015)
Huh? It's red you guys! It's obviously a strawberry. ;-)
davincipoppalag (Jan 18, 2015)
Hmmm.. it could be..
firecracker (Jan 22, 2015)
'yummy' looks ripe and ready to eat!!!!! :)
drawn in 54 min with Lascaux Sketch
lolijn (Jan 17, 2015)
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davincipoppalag (Jan 18, 2015)
upside down seals
Teapot (Jan 18, 2015)
I keep flipping back and forth between seals and headstones.
firecracker (Jan 22, 2015)
It makes me think of tubes of 'lip balm'......:)
drawn in 32 min with Chibipaint
Specialty Boards/Contest! 
mudbutt (Jan 17, 2015)
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davincipoppalag (Jan 18, 2015)
good call Grace!
elly (Jan 18, 2015)
Reminds me of a pretty stained glass window and I'm trying so hard to look thru it to see what's on the other side :)
lori (Jan 24, 2015)
tell us how you do these! or have you already and I missed it? awesome!
mudbutt (Jan 25, 2015)
I play with designs and tools 'til I make something I like.
drawn in 20 min with Lascaux Sketch
Public Boards/Intermediate 
lori (Jan 13, 2015)
well, the eyes aren't right, they usually aren't in the faces I try to draw with no ref... perhaps my own eyes aren't right!
5 comments – latest 4:
elly (Jan 13, 2015)
I love your style lori :)
Suntan (Jan 13, 2015)
you changed your color palette on this one, but still knew. hope you're feeling good!
Teapot (Jan 15, 2015)
I really like the eyes.
lori (edited Jan 16, 2015)
hey guys, thanks for the comments, and thank you Sunny for wishing me well... I wish I had a good report, but still at the same time, things could be much worse.... did you see that I have my own site now? it doesn't say a lot on there right now, but my friends on facebook know that this year I am selling my artwork in various ways, regular prints, canvas prints, metal prints, fleece blankets and more... I also will be selling more sculptures, and jewelry, MUCH cooler jewelry than is there now.... the site is .... I believe I already said that here in the forums... be well everyone... I am trying my hardest to take good care of myself, I've lost 50 lbs! back to my normal weight again! but, I still have things to be concerned with... sigh.. isn't that my life story... who cares... just gonna make the best of it.... I love and miss you all.. would love to have more of you as friends on facebook! Hey, does anyone else notice even more art missing? Or am I just imagining it? It's a shame, it really is! Especially because I can't even remember what pics they are that are gone! except for one specific one
drawn in 2 hours 20 min with Chibipaint
Specialty Boards/Contest! 
karl (Jan 13, 2015)
12 comments – latest 4:
davincipoppalag (Jan 21, 2015)
i never let it update...and so far I'm not having any issues with it
Felistorm (Jan 21, 2015)
I finally updated it to the latest and have no problem it is just my computer seems to get mopey when I click not right now LOL Soooo annoying. It does that with AVG too but nothing to set me off like losing a drawing. Just means I need to take a few and come back to it though. Lascaux is still my fave program :) Oh and *waves at Marcello* Hey stranger! :) To Karl: I am loving the colors you used for this.
firecracker (Jan 22, 2015)
This is definitely a beautiful work of art......should be in 'showcase'!!!! :)
Pantera (Jan 23, 2015)
Yes great work, showcase it. :)
drawn in 7 hours 24 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
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