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Axil62 (Oct 4, 2004)
This will be an experiment. I want to attempt to do a demonstration from an oil painting book.
Joseph Sheppard titles the book “How to paint like the old masters” The demonstration I’m going to attempt is lesson two. I will be posting the numbered instructions from the book and then what I had to do differently to adjust for Lascaux. I will sumbit each step seperately. Wish me luck, if I get sick of it I’ll either delete it or paint a big smiley face over the whole damn thing. Please forgive me if this gets too wordy Marcello.

Axil62 (Oct 4, 2004)
drawn in 35 min
1.
"Painting directly from life, I
Rough in the outline of the por-
Trait and paint in the dark areas
With burnt umber and medium."


(I began by filling the “canvas”
with a light brown. For the sketch
lines I simply used the burn brush
with the same background color.
And of course, I'm not painting
from life.)
aznanime93 (Oct 4, 2004)
wow its purty cool drawing.
Aubrey (Oct 4, 2004)
That's a pretty lady Dan, this'll be interesting learning :)
Axil62 (edited Oct 4, 2004)
drawn in 25 min
2.
"With a gray tone made of ivory
black and white I paint in the
light areas of the flesh. I then
paint in the light section of the
dress with white and the shadow
section with gray."

(Pretty much what the book said except I didn't have to mix ivory black and white for gray.
I had the opacity and flow turned down to about 130 each. I also switched to the mouse.
Fixed the right hand some robe outlines and both wrists. Repositioned the eyes.)
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Oct 4, 2004)
This is really interesting... this is how I was taught to paint - like the old masters did it (no quickies) I always use burnt umber or raw sienna and turpentine to sketch it out on the canvas first.
Axil62 (edited Oct 4, 2004)
drawn in 24 min
3.
"I now paint in the darker shadow
areas with a darker gray than I
used in step 2. You can see these
darker tones on the forehead, eye-
sockets, cheek, jaw, and breast."

(Nothing to adjust for in lascaux here. I did darken some of the hair and messed with her right arm again though. Just noticed I forgot to change the number to 3 too.)
Anna (Oct 4, 2004)
:D This is so great. I'm anxiously following along! :)
Axil62 (edited Oct 4, 2004)
drawn in 43 min
4.
"Using burnt umber, I restate the
features. Then with a flat coat of
burnt sienna diluted with me-
dium, I paint in the hair. I add
shadow accents with a mixture of
burnt umber and ivory black.
You can see these accents along
the chin, on the cheek bone, and
in the shadow cast by the lock of
hair falling over the eye."

(Again nothing really to adjust for in Lascaux except for using the blur tool in places to mimmick feathering with a dry brush. Forgot to change the damn number again. maybe I'll just get rid of the number.)
davincipoppalag (Oct 5, 2004)
Oh sure..you found a way to import the real oil painting into the applet, and you are painting over it.(heehehe)
This is very educational and interesting!
Axil62 (Oct 5, 2004)
drawn in 29 min
5.
"Using brushstrokes that follow the
form, I paint in putre white high-
lights on the breast and in areas
of the face. Using a dry brush,
I then blend these lights into
the wet underlying color."

(What a pian in the ass. I had to use alot more white than I thought at first. I also had to turn down the flow and opacity on both the white brush and the blend tool 'used as a dry brush to blend' to keep from obliteratong her face. The pixels are hard to deal with in small areas so I have to blur, fix, blur, fix over and over. Whatever, we'll see how it goes.)
kejoco (Oct 5, 2004)
Just out of curiousity, what is burnt umber?
I've been messing with pastels lately and i checked out a few tutorials online and it usually suggests sketching in burnt umber first...
I've never even heard of it, which surprises me, can someone fill me in. is it similar to anything else in texture or use?
staci (Oct 5, 2004)
its a color >.<
kejoco (edited Oct 5, 2004)
Thank you, good to know....
I probably should have known that anyway...feeling a little stupid now
by the way, this looks excellent
Axil62 (Oct 5, 2004)
Is it just me or do the colors keep changing everytime I come back to this?
Axil62 (Oct 5, 2004)
drawn in 49 min
6.
"Now, using a pure heavy white, I
draw in the highlights of the
dress; with darker gray I paint in
the folds that form the shadows.
This combination of white in the
highlights and gray in the folds
creates the look of soft fabric
clinging to the sitter's body. I then
paint in the arm with a medium
gray."

(That dress sucked. More of the same, paint blur repaint blur repaint. I had to go back over her flesh again with gray. I don't know why, I thought it was gra y the first time. Almost all of this was don on medium flow and opacity ecept for some of the white highlights, full opacity with second to smallest brush and smallest brush..also on antialias. I'm losing faith in this experiment.)
davincipoppalag (Oct 5, 2004)
It looks the same to me..dunno. The hair is amazing.I hope you don't lose faith before you finish this, I'm enjoying the whole thing as it develops.
Aubrey (Oct 5, 2004)
Don't lose the faith! It's so purdyyy please keep going :) She stands out so much off the purdy background. Beautiful picture Dan.
dixielandcutie (Oct 6, 2004)
*sigh* wow...im gonna hafta go back and spend some time with this...wow...i love the expression on her face
Axil62 (Oct 6, 2004)
drawn in 36 min
7.
"Here I renddr the arms and hands
more fully, following the same
procedure I used in painting the
head. I also blend and soften the
tones of the neck and breast."

(See above)
Axil62 (Oct 7, 2004)
drawn in 26 min
8.
"With a mixture of burtn umber,
ivory black, and meduim, I now
paint in the dark shadows of the
robe."

(Used a dark brown full opacity to shape and cut the robe, turned opacity down on the brown to mimick brush strokes on edges in places. Lot's of reshaping of the robe.)
Aubrey (Oct 7, 2004)
Wish I had a robe like that, it's not even done and already its really purdy :)
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Oct 7, 2004)
The dress is great, especially the transluscency of it... you should really be teaching art somewhere. And yeah, you have to finish it.
Axil62 (Oct 8, 2004)
drawn in 35 min
9.
"Using a mixture of yellow ochre and burnt umber, I scrub in the light sction of the robe. Adding this color gives the fabric texture and body. I will gradually refine the robe by adding highlights and shadow accents. I also ater the background here with a mixture of yellow ochre and ivory black."

(I actually started with the background by choosing the fill tool and the erase tool to erase the tan around the figure allowing me to use a 2nd layer behind her, making it much easier to work with the background colors by flooding that layer with a dark green and then picking a greenish yellow with a thin brush turning opacity and flow to about 130 then blending with the blur tool. After that I used the dodge tool to darken areas of the background and then blend again with the blur tool. The robe was simply done with a darjer brown with opacity and flow turned down to about 120, then blurring spots and dodging others.)
Axil62 (edited Oct 9, 2004)
drawn in 6 min
10.
"Here I used ivory black and scrubbed in a long sleeve turtleneck sweater to cover the subject because there are a bunch of ignorant fuckheads that might see her breasts. That concludes this Demonstration, thank you."
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Oct 9, 2004)
It turned out beautifully, and I really like the way it looks in v9, but maybe she was cold and she'll be more comfortable this way. People with a breast-phobia need to go someplace besides an art site, anyway.
Axil62 (Oct 9, 2004)
That's ok dba, I'm sure it's just some dried up frustrated old bitch anyway.
DeadlyBlondeArcher (edited Oct 9, 2004)
lol, yes, I'm sure it probably is. We can click on v9 and still see how beautiful she is, and at least she won't catch a cold. :)
Aubrey (Oct 9, 2004)
Awww there was nothin wrong with it how it was. She was beauteeful Axil.
bumpinthenight (Oct 10, 2004)
looking awesome, axil.... I'm kinda sad that you did have to cover her up... Her skin was really well shaded... One thing that bugs me, however, is her left (viewers right) eye. There is a white dot beneath the inner corner of her eye that shouldnt be there... oh well... The white robe looked fantastic, btw... :)
Gigge (Oct 10, 2004)
I liked the way it was developing. There were alot of nice elements. I'm not saying this should have been rated. It didn't bother me. But, what's wrong with putting a rating on things? Does it detract from the piece?
Axil62 (Oct 10, 2004)
drawn in 3 min
davincipoppalag (Oct 10, 2004)
I hope that craps on a separate layer.. this was beautiful..
marcello (Oct 10, 2004)
smoking is bad, yo.
kejoco (Oct 10, 2004)
Do you mean bad bad or good bad....like the kids used to say
sapphirefairy47 (Oct 10, 2004)
I liked it before the cigarette and glasses....what happened?
marcello (Oct 10, 2004)
I dunno, I think dan's injected humor actually adds to his pieces...
Anna (Oct 10, 2004)
lol. I loved your experiment, Axil. Well done! :)
Xodiak (Oct 10, 2004)
I like umber... Xod calls it, "doggy poo" colour. >:)
Also, the drawing looks extremely great! Especially how you make it in steps with descriptions of what you do. Very educating. Also, the last (v.11) revision is fantastic! The drawing is matrixised! >:D
|XOD|
Aubrey (Oct 10, 2004)
Nice job with the shades and smokes lol
spiritdweller (Oct 11, 2004)
such a pity, she was pretty... hey.. I made a rhyme... :)
Aubrey (Oct 11, 2004)
You're a poet and didn't know it :-D
aznanime93 (Oct 11, 2004)
lol Cool smokes
emmamommalag (Oct 11, 2004)
But the breast certainly didn't add anything to the picture. Nothing natural about it. Can't say as I recall seeing anybody on the streets with one breast flappin' in the breeze.. or even both for that matter. Interesting tutorial and nice pic. I kinda like the shades and the smoke.
staci (Oct 11, 2004)
i have sour cream and onion potato chips
Axil62 (Oct 11, 2004)
emmamommalaq: She wasn't on the street, she was in a studio, where portraits are done, where men and women model. Where artists have been depicting the male and female form since there have been artists. you are an ignorant prude of a bitch. The world doesn't behave according to what you think, never has, never will. So do us all a big favor and take your dried up pathetic excuse for an ass and go hang yourself.
emmamommalag (Oct 11, 2004)
lmho!!!
Axil62 (Oct 11, 2004)
What a fuckin idiot
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Oct 11, 2004)
Excuse me, Mrs. Emmamommalag, respectfully, but it did add something to the picture. Women have breasts, they are beautiful, and artists have been painting the nude form since the beginning of time. There are at times things done here that could be construed as "crude" or "vulgar" and therefore might require a covered rating. This, however, was not one of those pieces. It was beautiful. If someone has a problem with a partially exposed breast on an art site, perhaps they should be doing something else besides browsing art sites.
emmamommalag (Oct 11, 2004)
Excuse me, Mrs. DeadlyBlondeArcher.. did I say there was anything crude or vulgar about that pic? I was just stating facts.. the breast added nothing to that picture. In fact, it looked inane. I will say this, though. Mr. Axil's language is definitely crude and vulgar as is his general attitude.
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Oct 11, 2004)
Well, she has breasts, if he left them off it would certainly take away from the picture. Those of us that aren't offended by the depiction of the simple human form in a simple pose might disagree with you. I liked it the way it was. Yes, it may be, but he usually has to be provoked to that point.
Axil62 (edited Oct 11, 2004)
I bet you have about 30 cats don't you emmamommalaq? 5 pounds of cat shit behind the TV, half eaten cans if friskies all over the place, newspapers and other garbage piled up to the ceilings in your rent controlled little one bedroom apartment. Dead plants, the whole deal. lol
I guess I can understand why you feel that way though, you're probably used to seeing your own hideous body in the mirror. I'll bet your ass looks like two pigs fighting over a milkdud.
emmamommalag (Oct 11, 2004)
Nah.. friskies gives 'em gas. lol
Zack (Oct 12, 2004)
Nudity is nudity. You shouldn't see the 18+ rating as a stigma, Axil, as it exists for practical and incontrovertible reasons. Right now, I am on a computer at school, and any nudity (artistic or otherwise) that shows up while I'm browsing has the potential to get me in trouble. This is not about censorship, it is about enabling people to visit the site in a public place without being harassed.

That said, I agree that the nudity did add to this picture. It lent a lot of meaning to it that was removed in version 10. What does what you see on the streets have to do in the least with how much something adds to a picture, Emma? Have you then in your street-traveling seen people with wings, so you can say that drawing wings on a person adds to the drawing? Or perhaps you would say that the wings in a picture of an angel do not add anything to the picture, that it would be the same without them. Art isn't just about aesthetics; it has meaning.
Kloxboy (edited Oct 12, 2004)
Zack, when pertaining to art, nudity is not simply nudity. Just the thought of seeing an "18+" sign before entering the Louvre is pretty laughable. Public nudity is everywhere, in sculptures, paintings, photography and I imagine we've all looked at ourselves in the mirror naked at some point. To censor artwork containing nudity is restricting the free exchange of ideas, which threatens religious, moral, political, artistic and intellectual freedom. In my opinion, all 2Draw needs is a warning on the front page that some of the material may be in conflict with the viewer, just like any website that may have controversial material.
kejoco (edited Oct 12, 2004)
I still can't believe people get more upset over the nudity on here than they do over violence that is on here.
What a messed up ideology.
we see ourselves naked every day, but if you draw anything with the hint of nudity everyone is offended.
How often do you see the acts of violence depicted in a lot of the drawings on here in real life? Not often in our part of the world but no one has a problem when it is drawn.
This is NOT a 18+ drawing
clothing isn't made to cover something shameful, its to keep you warm.
Religion has warped peoples minds into thinking sex and nudity are sinful.
Other than that its your own insecurities if nudity offends you
again....this is NOT a 18+ drawing
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Oct 12, 2004)
I think we should re-name the picture Mafia Mama since she's wearing black and sunglasses and smoking and stuff, now. :)
Kloxboy (Oct 13, 2004)
No memo needed Zack, what I said here still stands just as CLEAR as it did yesterday.
xwindflyer (edited Oct 13, 2004)
Strange that emmamommalaq's reply only refered to the cats.
DejasView (Oct 16, 2004)
emmamommalaq said: "Excuse me, Mrs. DeadlyBlondeArcher.. did I say there was anything crude or vulgar about that pic? I was just stating facts.. the breast added nothing to that picture. In fact, it looked inane." The fact is, this is only a fact according to you, emma. It is only your opinion. Just because you think the tit didn't add anything to the pic doesn't make it a fact.
shell (Mar 3, 2011)
aw why'd you cover her up
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