hehe thanks :P

I think the line between intermediate and advanced has been blurred more than even Oekaki Shi-Painter can blur things. It looks real alright, real cartoonish and deformed.

heay 62 have u ever tryed to make a cartoon char into a realism? well it ain`t easy shure the shading especialy on the face & the hood could use some work & it may not quite be advanced materal but give Cloud a break it`s not easyto do a realism i think it looks prety good my self

axil: you're right, I should clean up the advanced a bit.

Chosen: Have I ever "tryed" to make a cartoon "char" into realism? Hmmmm, lets see...I think they call that drawing a real person...uh, yeah, I've done that a few thousand times. Notice the "char's" right arm pit on this, now look at the "char's" right shoulder in relation to the arm pit...notice anything there? the hood looks like a black beach ball with a hole cut out for the straw hair to fit into and speaking of hair, why do you suppose the hair covers the eyes? Because it's easier than having to attempt eyes that are good enough for expert level drawings. Last but not least, just because something is difficult for someone to draw doesn't qualify it for expert. The argument "Oh come on, it was hard for them so it should be considered good." is sad, weak and painfully pathetic.

Lets see axil, the chosen means that its a 3d character and a bit manga style, and he hasnt got shadows as humans its like in magas so its as real as it can. I mean its not everything lined when i mean realistic

Lets see axil, the chosen means that its a 3d character and a bit manga style, and he hasnt got shadows as humans its like in magas so its as real as it can. I mean its not everything lined when i mean realistic.

EDIT: Axil i recommend you to watch deep dive video and then shut up, yes we can't see his eyes on the video

Ok. I guess you're right. What qualifies as expert here is not up to me. I've never watched your little cartoon and I have no desire to do so, especialy if this is anything close to an accurate representation of the artwork in said silly little cartoon. Can't see his eyes in the little cartoon eh? So you're saying that the "artists" that did the video are a bunch of lazy turds too? So what's your point?

FIRST OF ALL! It isn't finished!! so don't make decisive comments (yes it's for you axil)

then watch this http://usuarios.lycos.es/skevil/khunk.jpg

EDIT: i don't wanted to copy face expresion, i just used it as a reference

Ok I'm sorry. lol

That's really nice. i like the lightin on the face, make it stands out!

Hehe don't worry, like your Vash drawing says... love & peace!!!

Hey ^^ Niiiiice. You may have gone a little bit overboard with the ePen, but beautiful. :) Keep up the good work.

yeah, I think it looks pretty good. I'm not sure about protecting the integrity of the 'expert' board, but I guess when you post in it you're putting yourself under more scrutiny. But anyway, finish the damn thing.

mm, I like his lips, I want to steal him. This is looking very spiffy, I like it very muchly.

Yeah i like his lips too :P

This is amazingly similar to the actual person, except for a few barely noticeable things... Such as, I believe that his face isn't so... blocky... and his coat is missing the little silver chain thingy. Ahem, like I said, barely noticeable...