No because its good, Were talking about newbs.
Those are the people who spam the boards.
Any ways nice job ky.

Exactly my point, Knockoff. If you aren't angry with me for taking a short time, then you aren't angry with them for taking a short time. And so, you must be angry with them (partially) because of their lack of skill, and saying it just plain sucks, whether it really does or not, is just rude and completely uncalled for.

Actually no, Im talking about Spam, and people spending 10 minutes not 20.

Which is why I said (partially).

10, 20, I could do so much less in an extra 10 minutes.

And some people still call things crap for a single postiture.

WOW!!! you're amazing... all that in 20 minutes... the only thing i dont like is that the wings are too blurry...

Mosaic tile.

Here is an image shunned for 'sucking' that the user had not spammed more.

If people spam with bad drawings = bad
If people draw but arent that good = dont have a problem with it
But, like someone said a while back, this place isnt for people who dont have any skill at all. Come here when you have some skill in drawing and can draw a properly-shaped fish with a mouse/tablet. For me, its enjoyable to come here and see good pictures, but ones that need serious improvement arent very enjoyable to look at.

"This doesn't mean you can't post 5 or 10 minute sketches, but they have to be good 5 or 10 minute sketches, and they should be mixed with pictures you put more time into. Although there is something to be learned from quick sketches in traditional art, we strongly discourage submitting these sketches." -2draw rules

Yeah see this is a good one. It's mixed in with others that you took time on. And I am a lover of you and your art Ky, but the head is a bit lopsided, the fingers are a tad wobbly, his neck is a little short, and these could be improved had you spent more time. These are my opinions and that is all. Don't post something you don't want to be judged is one of the things I think people should keep in mind on this issue.

It's still very good though and it screams "Ky" all over it. I adore the wings and colors.

If that's the issue, should it not be placed within the rules? 'This should be for people with skill'?

It's suggested, but not stated.

I love how the wings are all blurred and pixely.

lack of skill and lack of time don't mix. if you're not a very skilled artist, spend more time and make a conscious effort to improve your drawing (and don't get mad if someone gives you *constructive* criticism). there are some artists that can do wonderful work in 10-20 minutes (like gusiLuNg), but if you ain't one of 'em, respect your fellow 2drawers and try harder. remember: anything worth doing is worth doing WELL.
but i love you all anyway ^__^!

[my 2 cents]
well personally i think an art forum kinda setting is a place to post your art to people. people have opinions. they'll say what they want. this saying what they want usually helps push you where you should be. even though we all have different styles, different methods, we can all whack eachother over the head now and then and learn from it. what i dont really get is why post art on a board if you dont want comments.. i mean its a forum.. theres always opencanvas or MSpaint if you wanna sit in your bubble..

on the newbs? i honestly dont care what they do as long as they want to improve. thats a huge aspect to art. learning and expanding what you know to get better and better. no matter how good you get someone will find mistakes. and thats kinda what this is all about isnt it? posting so people will help you improve. not to be all "OMG THAT ROXXORZ!!" or whatever.. i mean yeah sure thats fine if you personally cant see anything wrong with the pic. but everyone has room for improvement. i sure do.

i get what everyones saying. discrimination and yadda yadda. but if people just want to post everything all over the place theres tons and tons of oekaki boards that will accept you. but thats them.. i mean theres tons of oekaki boards with mad crazy rules. with all users above our advanced users. 2draw rules arent that harsh. just dont post spam. put effort into it. 2 really easy things to do. if you take it seriously youd be surprised how far youd go. we all sucked at one point. but why not improve. theres always room to improve. once you get good at one thing, theres a million other things you can do. endless subjects. endless angles. endless color, lines, everything. so keep at it. and work hard. before i open a can of mazi-style whoopass.

theres 2 things that contribute to how well you can draw. 1) natural skill. 2) hard work and practice with effort.. some have no natural skill but can make up with effort. some people dont practice and dont have to work hard every time because they have natual skill. but point being pretty much anyone has potential if you work at it. theres a plethora of tutorials floating around. i post a bunch all the time. go look.

this long ramble has been brought to you by the letter vodka. and the letter s.
the s is for sucks.

[/2 cents]

ah.. nice pic ky. ky flys on his digital wings. *looks dreamy*

though i agree, his head looks kinda squish.

dunno, I think this pic sucks. ;)
and I mean like in comparison to your usual stuff, this barely compares. if you want someone who can draw something that looks good in 6 minutes, you need to drag porcelain over here. now if only she'd spend more time :)

I'll squish your head.

Thanks for your two cents. They mean a lot and are truthful.

Marcello is mean. ;__;
Marcello. Of course, good man. But I'm demonstrating. It sort of needs to be... what say you... shit? Yes.

these people who suck and submit lil drawings with friggin kirby or sum other afterschool cartoon on em or something shouldnt even submit their drawings in the first place, what do they expect people to say "0h s0 c00t!! ^_^~!!! i wuv kurb3y s00 mooch!!" thats non productive, its NOT art and its irritating to see... i think 80% of the drawings in the begineers board are complete CRAP! and they DO suck and frankly i dont give a fuck if its becouse of lack of skill or lack of time... (auh cry me a river)

Meep, I think it's great, especially the whole 'burning blood' concept.

I think everything is art, mikhail. The company that made your computer, they made art, just its art with a different function.
mikegreen (i think thats his name) on deviantart said "art is what you make of it."
Some art, well, to me, isnt that great to look at. to others it may be, but to me i like to see (some)skill.