it will be interesting to see it finished

promise me you'll never use any of the refs I've used

(reworded), why did you ask for the ref pic to help me then use it for your own draw

I gave you the information on the ref over a day ago in a memo which you read flubbles

Originally I was just going to draw the vail type head scarf thing to show you how I would do it without using textures, but then I just started drawing the whole thing. I dont see why your all pissy, if you used somebodies recipe for an apple pie does that mean nobody else should use the same recipe?

Interesting to see the two versions. I like the first one much more...the softer quality of it. But the features are off. The mouth is on a different plane than the nose and chin in the first one. And the outside eye does not represent the rounded aspect of the face in either painting. I noticed the same thing in most of his portraits. He had a hard time getting the perspective lines accurate on the curved surface. It would drive me crazy trying to make a fair copy of it because I would keep wanting to correct his faulty anatomy. I see you had to fix it, too, since, in your drawing, the features are drawn correctly. Beautiful job on the silken gauze wimple. You really captured the semi-transparent quality and the stiff starched texture of that fabric.

The skin in your portraits always looks like metal (copper-like), which makes your portraits unnatural and rather scary looking to me.

Your opinion doesn't count because your to scared to use your own name.

It looks to me like her right eye and her mouth are facing toward us too much in relationship to the angle of her nose and chin. Who knows? Maybe her face really looked like that. It just feels a bit wrong to me. You realize I'm talking about the original painting, right? Not Flubbles version.

of course, beautiful finish, Bob. :)