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Goofing Around
laurael
(Apr 8, 2004)
April was 'trying' to be in a 'serious' picture...(they came out better than 'she' did...oh well...)
DinoFlorist (Apr 10, 2004)
Wow, laurel, this is really good! I think this one is the best one you've done in recent memory. Wow, wow, it's really awesome.
Fluffysheep (Apr 10, 2004)
Yayyy it's The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles !!! This pic rocks ! ^______^ Nice coloring too ;)
DonkeyKO (Apr 24, 2004)
Poor April.
laurael (May 18, 2004)
This one is still a favorite....'love' how they came out... |
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Pkingsora
(Apr 9, 2004)
Picture i did fer Dainamo..here is his rp Gaian char Dainamo..he is the Leader and Founder of the Anti Order..its pretty cool..
Dainamo (Apr 10, 2004)
Augh! One day I'll figure out how to draw all snazzy like you do~
DivineStar (Dec 3, 2004)
Nyufufufu....that guy is a bish! X3
squee (Dec 26, 2004)
Hah! I found you again! ^_^ I still love your art! Much-like!
mukumuku (Dec 26, 2004)
very nice. *tacklehugs* very nice indeed |
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DinoFlorist
(Apr 9, 2004)
Now there is evidence to support all of our conversation on file size, Icats! Same amount of time, both one layer, same program, canvas size, evrything. Btw, since you are a cat, this dog is gonna get you.
marcello (Apr 10, 2004)
There's no "going into" about it, I made the system, I should know how it works. =PLet me explain a little more in detail. Ok first off, the number one affect on file size is the size of your canvas. If you draw large images, you'll take up more space, simple as that. On 2draw, for each image you have a number of different files. You have the full quality PNG, an optional compressed JPG version (only if it is smaller than the PNG), then 3 different thumbnails (PNG or JPG, whichever is smaller, typically JPG is). Then for each version, you will have 2 small thumbnail versions (which are probably a rather small % of the image total space), and either a JPG or PNG copy of the version (whichever is smaller). Then last of all, you have a format specific to the applet. As I said above, a PNG version is stored with every image, PNG is lossless compression. Take BMP, one of the simplest image formats around, for each pixel 4 bytes of space are used, so a 400x400 image will use 640KB, uncompressed. Now, PNG will actually compress the information considerably by taking regions of solid color that is, the exact same RGB for a rectangular block of area, and compress it quite well. This means a completely black image at 400x400 can compress to less than 1KB. However, if from one pixel to the next, the color changes (such as with a gradient, soft, or antialiased lines), it can barely compress that at all, and in the absolute worst case (where every single pixel is different across the canvas), your PNG file will approach that 640KB size of the BMP. JPG on the other hand, is lossy and can compress images better by taking approximations of the image. For the most part, the PNG and JPG files do not take enough space to cause a problem. What hits you is the applet-specific format. On PaintBBS, Shi-Painter, and OekakiBBS, an 'animation' file is recorded, which is essentially a recording of each x,y pair of each drawing stroke. This is not really comparable to a video format (which would make huge files). The number of layers, size of strokes, number of undos, etc. all have no effect on the animation file. The amount of time you spend on a picture does not affect the animation size other than by the number of strokes. If you just leave the image open, nothing is recorded. In addition, this is compressed, generally creating a rather small image (less than 100KB) even for extremely elaborate files. So, the number of strokes will in fact affect the animation size, but you need to do a lot of strokes before it becomes significant. The main difference is on Lascaux Sketch, which uses a bitmap format rather than animation. Lascaux Sketch's LSD format (quite comparable in size and features to Photoshop's PSD) stores the equivalent of a PNG file for each layer into one file. So in this case, the number of strokes, the amount of time, size of brush, etc. does not affect the end file size by any means. However, the size of the canvas, the number of layers, and complexity of the image (read the bit above about how PNG compresses images) all affect the end result. There are pros and cons to both methods. On average, the bitmap format Lascaux Sketch uses is much larger than an equivalent image stored in animation format. So, from a server standpoint, animation is better. However, the cons of animation format is 1) when you want to resume an image, you have to wait for the computer to "rebuild" the image from the animation so that all the layers are preserved. 2) it is much harder to make a 'stable' animation format. If the animation data gets corrupted or stored incorrectly anywhere in the image, everything after that point will either be completely lost or just turn out plain wrong. In the case of the bitmap format, it is really a matter of what-you-see-is-what-you-get. The layers you had when you saved/submitted your image will turn up exactly as you had when you load it again. An animation format for Lascaux Sketch has been made, but is currently incomplete (does not support a lot of layer operations, selections, text, and so on), meaning the image would not load back up as you drew it.
evil_cloud (edited Apr 11, 2004)
i like this, and i ask, why thrumbnails of this kind of pics rock so much?PS: LOL MARCELLO -100 points for so long comment ^^U
davincipoppalag (Apr 11, 2004)
Gives Marcello 200 points for the informative dissertation.. thanks..
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 11, 2004)
Um, yeah, okay. I comprehended like two sentences of that stuff. You just build it, I'll just play with it. :) |
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foxman8245
(Apr 2, 2004)
Thought I would work with watercolors on this one
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
He looks like E.T.'s father fox , I see the resemeblance in the eyes!
foxman8245 (Apr 10, 2004)
Yeah. he sure does!! mabey I shoulda' put him a stretched out neck on there. LOL
Deformed (Apr 10, 2004)
Aww. He's so cute!!
Wez (Apr 13, 2004)
nice bg he looks a little like ET :) |
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Kasha
(Apr 9, 2004)
my weird ugly anime-ish style. Yep, you won't see much of this, lol.
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
She looks kinda like Lisa Marie Pressley to me... I don't think I have seen you do ANYTHING ugly..
Wraith (Apr 9, 2004)
Very Nice pic! Excellent Job! :D
Knockoff (Apr 10, 2004)
Lol, kasha your to hard on yourself. I think this is great. THe nose is awesome. *pokes it* So is the hair.....
safescene (Apr 10, 2004)
your facial expressions are amazing..gah |
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KiwiKitsune
(Apr 9, 2004)
Huh? Wah?Huh. Mrow! xD
laurael (Apr 9, 2004)
Like how you did this one too...it's different and interesting. |
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longway
(Apr 4, 2004)
window and ivy
Pandora (Apr 5, 2004)
The sheen on the curtains look real and the reflextion of the window with the pink is cool. Love seeing one of the ladies in the frame..Nice touch longway..really nice
LovelyLori (Apr 5, 2004)
good job... cool picpeaceful ivy afternoon....
laurael (Apr 9, 2004)
Ooh...me likey...what a nice pic. Glad you came back, I always enjoyed your pics. |
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staci
(Apr 5, 2004)
saw them
Ixbalam (Apr 10, 2004)
To me v1 was kind of lonely and desolate looking. This version isn't. It's very nice. I like the subtle shading on the shells. They remind me of those little hand soaps some people have in their bathrooms.
Wavey (Apr 10, 2004)
GREAT JOB. very nice out of focus background, you know how much that means to me.
MaLynne (Apr 10, 2004)
ohhhh..so pretty. the colors are perfect.makes them look so real
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 10, 2004)
Don't know how I missed this one... I love it, because it is beautiful, and they almost look like they are under very clear water because of the way you did the background, but I hate you because you live in Florida and you do get to go see seashells!!!!!! (jk) Very loverly, prettiful picturesque picture. :) |
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longway
(Apr 9, 2004)
just beyond the shallows
laurael (Apr 9, 2004)
Like how you used the colors...interesting, indeed.
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
You did a nice job on the water and the sky. I think the lowest cloud line might need some softening (the line of them to the left of the sun) because they are a tad too solid looking. Nice picture
xwindflyer (Apr 10, 2004)
Nice picture.I like the way you can see the bottom thru the water. the cloud looks like it is being held up by the tree though. I like the color choice. |
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Minitsaru
(Apr 9, 2004)
this looked so much better b 4 i submitted it =( i guess i could always just make it black and white..... and i think this'll be my last drawing while experimenting with diffusion....
Knockoff (Apr 9, 2004)
Oh, thats really neat. I love how you used the spray pait tool in lascuax. That is one of the better tools in lascaux imo. Anywayz... I really like teh shading and the face., The pose is nice to. Fighting or sumthin....
laurael (Apr 9, 2004)
Like the way you did this too...do more of these... |
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