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foxman8245 (Apr 2, 2004)
Thought I would work with watercolors on this one
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davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
He looks like E.T.'s father fox , I see the resemeblance in the eyes!
foxman8245 (Apr 10, 2004)
Yeah. he sure does!! mabey I shoulda' put him a stretched out neck on there. LOL
Deformed (Apr 10, 2004)
Aww. He's so cute!!
Wez (Apr 13, 2004)
nice bg he looks a little like ET :)
drawn in 37 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
dixielandcutie (Apr 2, 2004)
Cowboys and Angels,
Leather and Lace;
Salt of the Earth meets heavenly grace.
Cowboys and Angels,
Tested and tried;
It's a long way to heaven, and one hell of a ride.
-Garth Brooks
(thanks dba for the inspiration...)
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Gigandas (Apr 5, 2004)
Hehe, looking good so far^^.The woman looks really well done with the structure, but the man looks like it still needs to be touched up some.Like davinci said, the eyes could be relaxed or in other words, not football-shaped.Actually, it's closer to a rounded rhombus shape and what you could do is pull the eyelid further over his iris and a bit over the pupil maybe.The lips could also use a division alone the center region because the bottom lip is just a bit too large compared to the top lip.Those ideas might do him some good^^.But hey, knowing you dixie, I'm sure you'll do a great job when it's all finished^^.Like I said though, looking good for being in process^^.
dixielandcutie (Apr 12, 2004)
drawn in 1 hour 29 min
okay, i'm outta space, so i guess i'm gonna callit a day on this one...imagine a pretty bg ;p
Gigandas (Apr 12, 2004)
Looks like you got some time to work on it some more^^.This is looking better.His face seems more relaxed so that's definitely good^^.Hmm, maybe all it's missing now are the pupils.If you want, you could also define the eyelid more too.But this softness you got going on is nice, so you might not want to be defining stuff too much.Hey, it still looks great though^^.Very relaxing to look at.
dixielandcutie (Apr 12, 2004)
lol, okay, completely forgot about the eyes...pffft...maybe i should ask for more space and fix that stuff...*sigh* we'll see how much it bugs me in the next couple hours, hehe...thanks gig
drawn in 3 hours 43 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
laurael (Apr 11, 2004)
...scumbag!!
5 comments – latest 4:
LovelyLori (Apr 12, 2004)
damn straight,Dave!
Baka-Usagi (Apr 12, 2004)
*Usagi ears flip out* =:3
Thats a really good drawing=:3
marcello (Apr 12, 2004)
What is she holding?
laurael (edited Apr 14, 2004)
There...it's now a gun...
drawn in 1 hour 34 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Beginner 
zep (Apr 2, 2004)
a face trying to show a feeling
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foxman8245 (Apr 12, 2004)
this is nice... looks alomost like a chalk drawing
davincipoppalag (Apr 12, 2004)
...where did everyone come over from?
staci (Apr 12, 2004)
check your glasses! we followed axil from youdraw..well indirectly anyway..i could draw a chart of how it all spread but i would like to take credit for bringing dinoflorist and indirectly bringing the ever popular DBA. ; P http://www.youdraw.com/
marcello (Apr 12, 2004)
I came from ... some other site. which I won't mention, cause.
drawn in 48 min with PaintBBS
Public Boards/Intermediate 
DinoFlorist (Apr 9, 2004)
Now there is evidence to support all of our conversation on file size, Icats! Same amount of time, both one layer, same program, canvas size, evrything. Btw, since you are a cat, this dog is gonna get you.
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marcello (Apr 10, 2004)
There's no "going into" about it, I made the system, I should know how it works. =P
Let me explain a little more in detail.
Ok first off, the number one affect on file size is the size of your canvas. If you draw large images, you'll take up more space, simple as that.
On 2draw, for each image you have a number of different files. You have the full quality PNG, an optional compressed JPG version (only if it is smaller than the PNG), then 3 different thumbnails (PNG or JPG, whichever is smaller, typically JPG is). Then for each version, you will have 2 small thumbnail versions (which are probably a rather small % of the image total space), and either a JPG or PNG copy of the version (whichever is smaller). Then last of all, you have a format specific to the applet.

As I said above, a PNG version is stored with every image, PNG is lossless compression. Take BMP, one of the simplest image formats around, for each pixel 4 bytes of space are used, so a 400x400 image will use 640KB, uncompressed. Now, PNG will actually compress the information considerably by taking regions of solid color that is, the exact same RGB for a rectangular block of area, and compress it quite well. This means a completely black image at 400x400 can compress to less than 1KB. However, if from one pixel to the next, the color changes (such as with a gradient, soft, or antialiased lines), it can barely compress that at all, and in the absolute worst case (where every single pixel is different across the canvas), your PNG file will approach that 640KB size of the BMP.
JPG on the other hand, is lossy and can compress images better by taking approximations of the image.

For the most part, the PNG and JPG files do not take enough space to cause a problem.

What hits you is the applet-specific format. On PaintBBS, Shi-Painter, and OekakiBBS, an 'animation' file is recorded, which is essentially a recording of each x,y pair of each drawing stroke. This is not really comparable to a video format (which would make huge files). The number of layers, size of strokes, number of undos, etc. all have no effect on the animation file. The amount of time you spend on a picture does not affect the animation size other than by the number of strokes. If you just leave the image open, nothing is recorded. In addition, this is compressed, generally creating a rather small image (less than 100KB) even for extremely elaborate files. So, the number of strokes will in fact affect the animation size, but you need to do a lot of strokes before it becomes significant.

The main difference is on Lascaux Sketch, which uses a bitmap format rather than animation. Lascaux Sketch's LSD format (quite comparable in size and features to Photoshop's PSD) stores the equivalent of a PNG file for each layer into one file. So in this case, the number of strokes, the amount of time, size of brush, etc. does not affect the end file size by any means. However, the size of the canvas, the number of layers, and complexity of the image (read the bit above about how PNG compresses images) all affect the end result.

There are pros and cons to both methods. On average, the bitmap format Lascaux Sketch uses is much larger than an equivalent image stored in animation format. So, from a server standpoint, animation is better. However, the cons of animation format is 1) when you want to resume an image, you have to wait for the computer to "rebuild" the image from the animation so that all the layers are preserved. 2) it is much harder to make a 'stable' animation format. If the animation data gets corrupted or stored incorrectly anywhere in the image, everything after that point will either be completely lost or just turn out plain wrong. In the case of the bitmap format, it is really a matter of what-you-see-is-what-you-get. The layers you had when you saved/submitted your image will turn up exactly as you had when you load it again.

An animation format for Lascaux Sketch has been made, but is currently incomplete (does not support a lot of layer operations, selections, text, and so on), meaning the image would not load back up as you drew it.
evil_cloud (edited Apr 11, 2004)
i like this, and i ask, why thrumbnails of this kind of pics rock so much?


PS: LOL MARCELLO -100 points for so long comment ^^U
davincipoppalag (Apr 11, 2004)
Gives Marcello 200 points for the informative dissertation.. thanks..
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 11, 2004)
Um, yeah, okay. I comprehended like two sentences of that stuff. You just build it, I'll just play with it. :)
drawn in 11 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
KiwiKitsune (Apr 9, 2004)
Heh... I feel SO ignored on this site. It's just... eh... I feel... practically... invisible. I feel like the fox. The fox is crying because she is ignored. Just like me. xD

EDIT: "DO NOT STEAL MY CHARACTERS. The Kaleni (plural for Kalena) are my own made up characters. I got bored in school one day and said, "POOF GOES THE MONKEY, PIZIA!!" Then, I just started drawing these things..."
11 comments – latest 4:
evil_cloud (Apr 10, 2004)
Gotta catch em all 2DRAW'mon
KiwiKitsune (edited Apr 10, 2004)
To evil_cloud:
o.O;; Uhm... no... I don't like Poke`mon anymore. Why do you think that I got a new screename for 2draw? My old one was pinkuespeon... o.O;; I call thes critters Kaleni... ^_^;;

To Soshell:
...uh? I don't know... I think that I got rid of it because it didn't fit in..? Or... something... x.x I don't know! ^_^;;
mooseflower (Apr 11, 2004)
they're all so cute! I wan't to hug the red one. *painfully finds a computer screen in her way* aw dangit. Anywho, it's really cool. AND... counting the number of comments you have on this, I wouldn't say you're ignored anymore...
Knockoff (Apr 11, 2004)
Why did you go to a new prorfile, and on deviantart.........
drawn in 1 hour 43 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
staci (Apr 5, 2004)
saw them
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Ixbalam (Apr 10, 2004)
To me v1 was kind of lonely and desolate looking. This version isn't. It's very nice. I like the subtle shading on the shells. They remind me of those little hand soaps some people have in their bathrooms.
Wavey (Apr 10, 2004)
GREAT JOB. very nice out of focus background, you know how much that means to me.
MaLynne (Apr 10, 2004)
ohhhh..so pretty. the colors are perfect.makes them look so real
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 10, 2004)
Don't know how I missed this one... I love it, because it is beautiful, and they almost look like they are under very clear water because of the way you did the background, but I hate you because you live in Florida and you do get to go see seashells!!!!!! (jk) Very loverly, prettiful picturesque picture. :)
drawn in 28 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Intermediate 
Kasha (Apr 9, 2004)
? heeh,
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davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
She has a head?...
marcello (Apr 10, 2004)
omg sarcasm is so lost on you guys =P
laurael (Apr 10, 2004)
What's he talkin' bout, davinci?
davincipoppalag (Apr 10, 2004)
It WAS warm today laurael...
drawn in 57 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
longway (Apr 9, 2004)
just for fun
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Pandora (Apr 9, 2004)
This is beautiful, she looks like a happy prisoner, maybe a prisoner of love? By the way longway, I was really laughing when I saw the pic in Ivy afternoon. That was such a cooooooooooool touch. Thank you. Haha you crack me up.
laurael (Apr 9, 2004)
Very prettily done...love this.
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
Gorgeous blue eyes. This has that "comic-book" epic look. I like it.
safescene (Apr 10, 2004)
I like this as well, although, her facial features look just a tad bit too big for her face...maybe it's just me? o.O
drawn in 2 hours 3 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Beginner 
O_O
Kasha (Apr 9, 2004)
my weird ugly anime-ish style. Yep, you won't see much of this, lol.
5 comments – latest 4:
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
She looks kinda like Lisa Marie Pressley to me... I don't think I have seen you do ANYTHING ugly..
Wraith (Apr 9, 2004)
Very Nice pic! Excellent Job! :D
Knockoff (Apr 10, 2004)
Lol, kasha your to hard on yourself. I think this is great. THe nose is awesome. *pokes it* So is the hair.....
safescene (Apr 10, 2004)
your facial expressions are amazing..gah
drawn in 27 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
 
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