I dont appreciate your innuendo.

I really like her lower body, it looks great! Nice job on the curves.

You're offended by innuendo, but it's okay to draw 'a young, shy girl lying on her bed'?

I honestly dont know what's wrong with it. I guess you think its dirty, its cause your mind is dirty.

All I'm saying is: Whatever it is you're thinking about, it'll reflect on your drawings. It's the power of the mind. If you think it, you can draw it. I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. But since it's still in progress, I can't really say whether the subject matter is 'what i think it is' so you can prove me wrong in anyway you like but it's all based on observation tho. lol

Well guess what. My thoughts had nothing to do with it, so your entire argument is null. Vera showed me the pic I used for this when she was browsing anime, and said wasn't it a great pic and if I could do it, and I said sure I'll try. The original had a sly look in her eyes and her legs were more open. I closed the legs a bit and gave her a less haughty expression. Again, I point out, my "thought process" had nothing to do with this work's instigation. Of course there's nothing wrong with the subject matter. Like you said, it's all about what your mind assumes... like you for example, assuming that I was thinking naughty thoughts or something.

To Quint: I'm a bit offed by her quip because such implications are not wanted here. I'm surprised Christy would be the one to suggest what she did. There's little wrong with depicting a young girl, even in just her lingerie, unless there is some promiscuous connotation, which I don't think exists here, unless you consider her bra undone such. But I really dont. I know I've done 1 or 2 naughty pieces (Squeezed, my least favorite work I might add and one which I often consider for deletion) but nothing I do should be taken as sexual fantasy. I simply enjoy drawing the feminine form, and I guess it's like my fallback plan when I don't have any good ideas.

*sigh, shakes head* Fiddle-dee-dee...

RRIIIGGGHHHHTTT. What anna, quint and cordelia said. Innuendo, plain and simple, and there is nothing wrong with it. :}>

I include sexual innuendo in "almost every one of [my] drawings" ?? I counted over 10 works by me that don't have a bit of sexual innuendo in them. Looks like someone has a case of the exaggerations >.>. I actually dont "love boobies" although I do tend to put some emphasis on them when I draw girls. Ask nozomii. I'm much more of a leg person. So you're misconstruing, though maybe that's to be expected, since you don't even know who I am. Cordelia and nozomii and I are very good friends and this is the way we are with each other sometimes. It's hardly a "holier than thou" complex. You can stand by quint if you like, but be prepared to have it fall on you and squish you into poo, since her statement is now nullified as far as this piece is concerned. I crush your puny opinions into nothingness. hahaha...

Edit: And Nozomii has a point.

The latter part of your statement is so arrogant and completely immature. "crush your puny opinions"?? lol.. If that's what you have to say to feel better about yourself, then by all means.. go for it. You draw on a public board. Be prepared to be told what other people think. If you don't like it, then draw on MS Paint on your own computer. This is not the place for you if you are going to be offended by 'innuendo' when you draw pictures of boobs all the time.

Anna. "arrogant"? "immature"? Here's a question that should be shoved through your apparently tiny mind: "was I even being serious?" But I guess you're the type who takes everything at face value and tends to be a stick in the mud. I mean, you actually took what I said seriously. That alone should say alot. Now, if we could all ignore the fatuitous bickering previously experienced and get back to just responding to the piece rather than the text skirmish. Thanks.

I like this drawing looks quite sexy, really good! now stop all the arguing you lot! xx

thanks pug. The eyes kinda bother me, and her mouth, but other than that I'm satisfied.

lol i hardly see why you say pulmonq2 likes to draw "boobs". Maybe cause he draws girls and girls have them?? And its actually only in 2 pieces. Even though i must admmit he kinda exagerated the size in Kitiara, i dont see what's the problem with this one. You called it art and its all it is. No sexual content whatsoever. It's like saying Venus de Milo statue is sexual just cause it shows her breasts! Loosen up, people!

You were inspired by me by reading an "aphrodisiac book" (sp?)??? *gasp and runs* Ooh but nice texture.

i actually agree, Vera. lol Maybe i just got carried away a little lol because it seems like a similar drawing to his "Passion" picture.

Paul, just make her look statuesque. (that way you'd draw her naked but it wouldn't be so obvious...) lol

*raises eyebrow*

I like it, the background in particular. Nice scenery ^.^ I think the picture would look a tad better though if you put the lineart as your topmost layer... or cover it up entirely. It looks a bit sloppy around her body when it's only partly concealed - then again, I don't know what kinda look you were going for *shrugs*.

What's up with all the bickering though o.O ?

Yea the lineart is that way on purpose. It's a stylistic choice, though I agree with you where only a segment of it shows around her cheek and nowhere else on the face, as well as the long run of hair on the rock where the lines show. So yea, she could use a bit more cleaning.

But now back to the right track, the draw itself... I must say i love the water. But its all pretty good.

*ponders i like the picture, just wondering... when are you going to draw flat-chested women?? Don't get mad at me, but i thought for a while that the long tail of hair snaking down her shoulder and onto the floor was - a snake.

that's her hair?! OOPS, I to thought it was a snake. :}>

this is looking pretty good, I like the water and the background esspecially, though, I think like on the girl, you could enphesise highlights a bit more, :) I like how she turned, out, but if your intention was to make here the subject, you might want to make her stand out a bit more. Just a suggestion. Good work though, btw, as for the bitching upon people, memos and IM are fabulous inventions.. try using them.

I wish I could get space to edit her face, because I don't like it at alllll.

send a memo to Visceral Vamp and ask..paste the url in the memo so she knows what picture.

very nice! Your shadow/highlights work really well here! Nice eyes too!