not really fin; I never have gotten the true art tools-for realistic objects and really conqueror these tools; which I used in real art, never got the hang of the software tech techniques. I should go back to school, draw objects, bouquets, people, portraits (used to do people-a lot.). l, was trained in fine art, not commercial; I loved doing portraits, Trees, settings of squash, flowers.l miss that. GOT wrapped up in hard stuff, and go away from fine artwork. I used to be good at it. in retirement, now, like to get back to it; but I wanta learn to really use these tools better. thanks, All!:) ( l Made the muffins.)