every time i try to do a detailed drawing i always end up ....ing it up with an involutary click or arm twitch...
anyone?

It takes time and patience, do be so tense.

I have the same problem so for now I paint things that do not need a smooth line

You just have to press undo and try again.

I wish I had a quarter for everytime someone whinned about using a mouse.

I wish I had a fifth of your quarter for every time someone whined about using a mouse.

People think that getting a tablet will be able to transform their drawing capabilities, when in fact all it does is make it easier to draw what you could already draw with the mouse.

I disagree...I drew with a mouse for three years and when I got my tablet and get used to it I really started improving and felt much more confident about using oekaki...yeah it does make it easier and I don't see a problem with that....

Agreeing with BMW. At the very least it is a lot healthier to draw with a tablet than with a mouse. And like a wise man once said: "you can also draw with chocolate spread and a knife, but do you want to?"

Yeah..and a wise woman once said:..."you could do a fantastic fingerpainting with you own poop..but do you really want to?.."

Nah, can't stand the smelly finger.

nnnnn..(holds nose with clean hand..)

;)

I just recieved my wacom bambo fun tablet and pen and it takes getting used to and needs some adjustments but at least my hand does not spasm all the time. does anyone know how to make the pressure sensitive aspect of the pen work on the 2draw applets?

We have several links easily found throughout the forums on how to do this, you could google it. But I'll tell you what I did. Download j-tablet from here http://sketchstudio.cellosoft.com/ and install. On shipainter press the P button on the top right. In lascaux there are two tablet buttons at the bottom right.

grapes...

http://2draw.net/wiki/Installing_JTablet has some instructions

you just need to change your style to suit the tools or get a tablet.
Back in the day (like ten years ago) i used to draw with a mouse but i didn't have any fancy optical mouse but an old beaten up rubber ball mouse and it would get stuck all the time. So the only way for me to draw was to adopt a straight edged style and use a line tool. in photoshop i would go with the paintbrush and click to mark the starting point for the line and shift+click to mark the endpoint, and repeat that until i had the line drawing ready. later i learned of the genius of the polygonal lasso tool and threw that method out. You could use that method with oekakis. But i think you should try out Inkscape, its a vector drawing program but its really easy to use and there are lots of tutorials on the net for it, also i think its easier to use it with the mouse than it is with a tablet.
Heres a link to drawing i made with inkscape, but you can very easily do work in that style with the polygonal lasso tool in photoshop or use the click and shift+click method (and fill areas with the bucket) actually it would have been faster to do in photoshop, but i wanted the ability of vectors to be able to be infinitely scalable, so i used inkscape instead

I still draw with a mouse. I find that zooming in a lot really helps as well as clicking a lot, and eventually you just get used to it.

That said, I have used tablets before (never owned one) and I wouldn't say I drew better with one, but it was much more efficient.

The reason I can't draw with a mouse is because they squeal to much when you keep tapping them on the back...and they get mad cause you won't let them go and they try to bite you..not to mention they piss and poop all over your work space..and everytime I do get a decent mouse to draw with..the cats come and take it when i am not looking and they eat the thing.....my tablet doesn't cause near that many hazards.

You can put your'e finger up a mouses bottom and use it as a finger puppet, i mean if you really wanted to.

Then you get poop under you nail..and if you forget to wash your hand and then bite your nail...ugh been there, done that..not pretty.

Thats why i dont like chicks fingering my asshole, just incase she doesn't wash her hands afterwards when she makes me a sandwich.

It tastes like chicken.

not to mention it leaves the unsightly brown stain.

you try scrubbing, you try soaking, but still....shit around the finger!

Yeah..and then you are fixing some guys cheeseburger at work..and he says.."hey what's that brown stuff around yer finger.."...then you got to admit you were plaing ring around the round brown pokey...

Yeah. HA HA! That guy sucks!

I HATE that guy!...I'm gonna put turd cutter nibblets in his hot chocolate this week...

I hope some guy that he knows from his construction job comes in and sees him, and then goes right up to him and says "Hey, Dick!" and gives him a good slap on the back of the neck while he's drinking it so that he spits and sprays shit nibblets all over his "Have a nice day" shirt.

Yeah ..and I hope someone else there is wearing a "Shit Happens" shirt and just shakes his head at him when it happens...

HA HA!! And a church lady mom shields her kids eyes from it all and leaves in a big huff.

Yeah..and Dick gets all pissed and chases after her throwing his shit at her kids...

Then random people start getting up from their chair, proceed to take a crap in their hand and then start throwing it at each other.

So the kids laughs hystericaly because he's cool and the mom is in shock because she never would have guessed.

And the guy holding the "The End Is Near" sign ducks right before getting hit with a flying turd..then realizes how near the end almost was for him..HAHHA!!!..that's funny..I was there and saw the whole thing.

One kid gets really pissed because he's trying to squeeze out a big turd, but all he can produce is a succsession of muffled trumps.

I only got to hear about it. Sure glad the end is near guy was wrong.

Yeah..me too...the kid is so excited over the whole thing is why..

It will be remembered in history as the great diner turd bath.

I'm having a moment of reverence.

I bow my head in Reverence to you…
my life, my challenges, my resolutions, my revelations,
and my connections.

I bow in Reverence
to those I respect,
to those I Love,
and to those I find difficult to understand.

I bow in Reverence to the Divine
who walks with me
assisting me whether I walk
in lightness or darkness.

I bow in Reverence
with my eyes and Heart open,
Trusting in the What Is of my life.

And, lastly, as a final Reverent gesture,
I bow to the best of myself
which I call to awaken this day.

I have deep gratitude for the path I walk
and the Divine Love that accompanies me,
and, in this moment,
I know I am complete.

And I will be immortalized in a staue for having started the whole thing...you all have been touched by greatness today.

I just hope no one kills me just yet because I still have some hot wings left.

I wouldn't kill you...but i would definitely wrestle you for them...

It is written, there will be no violence in the name of the wing. We will share our treasure with the hill people.

The Hill pople cometh....so it is said..and so it shall be done.

I just hope they don't bring that fucking dog. That damn thing is out of control.

I know..last time they brought it..it spent the whole time sniffing my damned crotch and i had to deliver a swift kick to his hamsack...

lol "hamsack" HA HA HA! A new word to love and care for as if it were my own sack.

We could all stick party blowers up our asses and the first person the make it blow gets a hot wing.

Holy shit.... is my web cam on?

Yes it is..i can see yer hamsack..

*shyly pulls party blower out of ass and closes robe* heh...sorry.

Nonsense!!..it was very fun to watch.

I can see his spiderman pyjamas.

Are they the ones with the footies in them and the backhatch..I like those..

HEY!! These are collectors item spiderman memorabilia PJ's that grown up men collect as mature adult collector guys that are grown up and not just a weird guy!

I want me a pair...can I borrow yours?

No, you'll get boob stretches in the top.

Aw Nuts!!..I never get the good stuff.

The grown up men use the back hatches for vastly different reasons though.

A fast and convenient way to go dookie without pulling their pants down?

Matter of fact...I just went dookie the old fashioned way. I even went the extra mile and pulled my pants and underwear clear down to my ankles and wagged my pecker at the wife while she lay in bed as I waddled toward the bathroom door. It's a guy thing.

lol..is that so?..well I always go dookie the old fashioned way.

"I've never heard of" dookie haha

Dookie is funny...HAHA!

:D