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comd (Apr 2, 2006)
Trying a bit more than a head this time since I have all this canvas space in the advanced section. I'm just going to try to copy the photo directly this time as closely as possible.
http://www.kristiaknowles.net/images/gallery/fitness/fit2.jpg

I'm not sure I'll get anywhere. Thanks all for the encouragement.

[Edit] This is the opposite of what I'm striving to do artistically as my goal is to draw more loosely from references (using information from the reference to make a completely different picture, not drawing the reference) and ultimately without needing references at all, but I wanted to try a shot at being unpainterly and more photorealistic: the antethesis of what I've been trying to do. To get the line drawing and major landmarks as accurately as possible, I initially started with a grid for the line drawing. This allowed me to shade and color more loosely without worrying about correcting inaccuracies from the previous stages. I don't think I quite got there as I still got lazy on the shading and didn't quite interpret the values correctly. It looks correct sized down, but not up close.
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Zack (Apr 5, 2006)
You might find it an interesting exercise to take a ref and try drawing it at a different angle. As soon as I have more free time I intend to make a number of drawings that are loosely referenced like that; maybe they have the same angle but different lighting, or they have different shading styles, etc. Personally, I see loose references as training wheels and strict references as crutches, but that's in terms of my own artistic goals and not a criticism of other artists here. In light of your goals, I'd say dropping the grid system is probably a good idea.
comd (edited Apr 5, 2006)
Modifying angles, lighting, or the original 3D form of the reference is the kind of stuff I'd like to ultimately do when using references. Just anything that demands the 3D form is understood so that it could be used to produce other 3D forms is what would benefit me most. I tend to be more 2D-oriented when copying photos regardless of whether I'm using measuring devices or just freehanding, and that's useful for copying 2D images, but not for inventing 3D ones. I tend to ask questions like, "what's the 2D shape of this highlight? How does it relate vertically and horizontally to this other mark?" Rather than, "what's the 3D form of this figure"? If I understood the 3D form, then I could invent my own highlights without using the precise shapes in the photograph.

I pretty much knew this picture wasn't what I should have been doing when I started on it based on my goals, regardless of the grid (though the grid made it that much worse). I set out only to draw the reference as accurately as possible and nothing more. In that sense, it's one of my biggest failures since that's the last thing I want to be doing in the future as I progress. I didn't even try to experiment with painterly techniques - I was trying to be as unpainterly as possible in this one so that it would look just like a photo. Generally I get the most comments about the painterly aspects of my works when working from photos, but this time I really wanted to try not being painterly (I tend to be painterly for economical purposes, not intentionally). I didn't even really achieve the photorealism I intended to achieve despite the use of the grid for the line drawing, so I didn't even succeed in that respect. While it's completely against my personal goals, I still admire the artists on here who can make their paintings look just like a photograph. I was hoping to achieve it here, but I think I deviated too much in the shading and still relied too much on lines which gave that sort of cartoony effect in places.
frootcake (Apr 6, 2006)
omg biggest posts ever. great pic and i've been a victim of the grid in the past. when the masters of the past were working on frescoes - they couldn't draw straight from life, so they did their preliminary drawing and they would grid that whole wall up before doing some of the greatest paintings ever made, theres no shame :):)
HunterKiller_ (Apr 7, 2006)
Mmm... (damn you essay writters.)
drawn in 7 hours 44 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
huirimeir (Aug 15, 2005)
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9 comments – latest 4:
comd (Apr 3, 2006)
Excellent picture!
Gigge (Apr 3, 2006)
Really nice, Huirimeir, really nice. And, no sketchy lines!
Roytje (May 22, 2008)
The blue and the brown go so wel together. Great!
huirimeir (Jul 8, 2008)
thanks Roytje!!
drawn in 4 hours 41 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
comd (Apr 1, 2006)
Nothing has been popping out to me from the blank canvas to doodle, so I went back to trying to draw from a photo again, but this time I played around with features even more than usual.

Reference photo:
http://gallery.amazon.ee/view_photo.php?set_albumName=European_Championships_2005&id=abh

I was originally planning to do an orc and sought out a scary-looking bodybuilder for the reference, but I ended up with a wizard instead.

This is my first attempt at submitting something in the advanced category. I hope it's okay: I spent ages on it, and I wanted to have the extra space available for revisions since I'm always running out of space.
7 comments – latest 4:
woah_pockster (Apr 2, 2006)
I'm loving all of your work dear, this definatly belongs on advanced. keep up the good work, can't wait to see what you do next =] <3
Opium (Apr 2, 2006)
I really like this! did you really spend that much time on this?? Now that's patience. He looks so much like someone I know....I can't put my finger on it...
Sweetcell (Apr 2, 2006)
Wow just..... wow. You belong, believe me.

Reminds me of General Zod from Superman. Without the crown.

Version 1 looks like a comicbook panel.
Version 2 looks like a bronze statue.
And the 3rd I mentioned.
WOWZERS.
Miss_DJ (Apr 3, 2006)
just awesome! love the tendons in his neck..yowza.
drawn in 11 hours 24 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
zep (Apr 1, 2006)
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zep (Apr 2, 2006)
hi people...thanks

hey comd thanks but NOT anything hehehe
and Hey solve, your comment make me search if i have other doodles about this kind...so:
http://cellosoft.com/2draw/view/34160/
http://cellosoft.com/2draw/view/28831/
http://cellosoft.com/2draw/view/24056/
enjoy and like Clox said;

Peace
solve (Apr 2, 2006)
A very interesting discovery zep. I really really like radio head, it is a very solid and lush work. Its strange because i always would associate a natural look (as far as the subjects go) to your works. Not anymore : )
zep (Apr 2, 2006)
:) as you see i´m quite naive in this kind of theme....thanks for your comments
Zack (Apr 2, 2006)
This is great. Makes me think of some deep sea diving suit. I remember those older ones too, you're great at sci-fi stuff Zep. :]
drawn in 1 hour 33 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Artiste (Mar 30, 2006)
props to the photographer, Derek Hudson.
44 comments – latest 4:
backmagicwoman (Sep 16, 2010)
One of the sexiest men alive.
Miss_DJ (Sep 16, 2010)
love love love John M., this drawing is perfection.
kotohebi (Sep 17, 2010)
Hummmm!
Nice middle man!
davincipoppalag (Feb 9, 2020)
still amazing
drawn in 6 hours 33 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
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huirimeir and zep (Mar 26, 2006)
Se finito
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davincipoppalag (Mar 31, 2006)
Nooo he's an insurance agent rushing to an anthill fire! This is great you guys.
Opium (Mar 31, 2006)
I like this one a bunch! Hyenas?
zep (edited Mar 31, 2006)
thanks people...

oiga huiri, yo también creo que estamos :)...igual apagaria un poco los volcanes, mas naranjita jejeje...

ah...y me tinca que la palabra que querias es : peaceful "a peaceful ife"....esop
huirimeir (edited Mar 31, 2006)
drawn in 5 min
Ya amiguito estamos listos...ta la raja... ahora otra colaboration... usted la comienza!!!
drawn in 3 hours 57 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
comd (Mar 30, 2006)
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Moosh (Mar 31, 2006)
...Yikes. D:
davincipoppalag (Mar 31, 2006)
This would have been great when we were all doing Halloweeny pics ..hehee she sorta looks like Rush Limbaugh.. hehe
solve (Mar 31, 2006)
ABC

What a horrible beast. Great facial structure.
zep (Mar 31, 2006)
nice!! i like the colouring...and the face of course :)
drawn in 56 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Intermediate 
davincipoppalag (Mar 28, 2006)
He's been boning up on his routine.. Used a ref for parts....and lots not.
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LisaAnne (Apr 8, 2006)
Haha...silly, but I love it!
laurael (Apr 22, 2006)
So you're 'boning' up on drawing skeletons...okay, eww. This made me laugh too! You should do more pun pics...goes with that fun personality of yours.
Kamll (Jan 2, 2007)
Wow.. haha, that's Really cool. And pretty funny too. I'm not so sure about the texturing on the hat... It would probably look better if you textured it manually. But overall, I really like this one.
davincipoppalag (Jan 2, 2007)
Yea...I didnt know how to do that so I used the halftone thingy. lol
drawn in 2 hours 28 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Advanced 
zep (Mar 21, 2006)
comment whore?
16 comments – latest 4:
Miss_DJ (Mar 31, 2006)
I always know it's a 'zep' without even looking at the name. Wonderful 'zeptacular' work.
staci (Apr 1, 2006)
but what does it all mean!?
davincipoppalag (Apr 1, 2006)
He's playing the Spanish version of "Deal or No Deal" Staci
Mal (Apr 6, 2006)
I really like this one , theres always great use of colour in your pieces.
drawn in 3 hours 9 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 29, 2006)
in Victoria, Texas
photo reference used

I have been looking at windmills all my life, but I never realized till painting this how interesting the design really is... it's simplistic, but complicated in a way - really a cool thing. Too bad they are slowly disappearing.

(I never would have had the patience to do this in the old Lascaux, the line tool working well makes alot of things possible now)
11 comments – latest 4:
Axil62 (Mar 30, 2006)
My new favorite of yours. Absolutely beautiful.
zep (Mar 31, 2006)
absolutely!
JoeNobody (Mar 31, 2006)
wonderful piece DBA......I've always loved the windmills in the countryside not far from here. This is nicer than all of them.
shell (Apr 2, 2010)
I like it
drawn in 5 hours 21 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
 
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