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fieryfever (Apr 8, 2004)
Honu :)

Remnant from my trip to Hawaii, man the background sucks. I might change it later.
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fieryfever (Apr 12, 2004)
drawn in 51 min
Honu :)

The background doesn't do this picture justice, but I was trying to recreate a wall hanging that I got when I was in Hawaii...does anyone wanna take a shot at it?
Tuukke (Apr 13, 2004)
nice pic, but it's head is a bit weird shaped? :) good colours on that shield!
drawn in 1 hour 36 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
TheCrimsonKing (Apr 12, 2004)
To me, this is what it would look like if someone were injected with 0.5mg/kg of DMT, and then listening to Flemenco music at the peak.
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Tuukke (Apr 13, 2004)
i didn't undestand fully that description but this is a nice picture!! fantastic look on her(?) face.. good linework and colours.. great, cuz this is done with so few colours but still it looks alive ^^
method3 (Apr 13, 2004)
I like it, pretty nice clean lines with that weird gradient. PS. Don't do drugs!
Fin_beast (Apr 14, 2004)
Very unusual.
I really like it. The expression looks perfect.
I like the fact he has no nose.
What drug DMT short for?
TheCrimsonKing (Apr 14, 2004)
N-dimethyltryptamine. I dare not try it...I don't think it would settle into me well..But I do like to read about recorded trips people have had with it.
drawn in 30 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
ChibiMidori13 (Apr 10, 2004)
Yeah, I know I just made him before, but I like him ^___^
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ChibiMidori13 (Apr 10, 2004)
drawn in 26 sec
Ah... I didn't like his nose o_o;
Tuukke (Apr 10, 2004)
i liked it more with the nose :) funny idea..
tappie_chan (Apr 10, 2004)
yay! i got my wish! i love him too! i'd buy this doll...
lp_phaery (Apr 10, 2004)
Id buy one of these too. colour's great
drawn in 31 min with PaintBBS
Minitsaru (Apr 10, 2004)
I had an idea for this when I started it!~~ It left me about half way through...
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Tuukke (edited Apr 10, 2004)
nice colours and a bit abstract style :)
Minitsaru (Apr 10, 2004)
omg, i just remembered what it was!!!! its some dude with a hang over and he's in a washroom throwing up and thats a mirror infront of him! XD
drawn in 20 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Specialty Boards/Collaborations 
KiwiKitsune, ChibiNay, and Tuukke (Apr 10, 2004)
Done...
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KiwiKitsune (May 5, 2004)
Ah hah hah. Thanks! ^^; I'll change the title for you!
Kloxboy (May 5, 2004)
Sweet, haha, nice. I think that title flows well, cool.
KiwiKitsune (May 5, 2004)
Heh heh! Thanks! Glad you do!
ChibiNay (May 5, 2004)
YAY looks so awsome!
drawn in 2 hours 59 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
KiwiKitsune (Apr 3, 2004)
Hey! This is a picture of Dark Chii from Chobits that I drew! It's unfinished right now! But, anyways, this is my first submitted image! ^_^ I hope you enjoy it! And, Miranda... you do draw better, and you know it! ^_^
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KiwiKitsune (Apr 3, 2004)
drawn in 46 min
Finished! ^_^ I hope that you all like this picture! It's my first submittion! ^_^ YAY!! ^_^
Tuukke (Apr 9, 2004)
nice, cool ears :) a bit more clear linework and shading and it would be great :) good colours, keep it up
laurael (Apr 9, 2004)
I LIKE how this looks...and the bg is cool too...
KiwiKitsune (Apr 10, 2004)
To Tuukke:
Aww! Thanks! I will try harder...
To laurael:
Thanks! ^_^;; I don't like this one that much... x.x my friend, Miranda saw me drawing at school, then she was fussing, "You DO draw better than ME!!!" AND... NO. I. DOOON'T... O_O
drawn in 1 hour 16 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
DinoFlorist (Apr 9, 2004)
Now there is evidence to support all of our conversation on file size, Icats! Same amount of time, both one layer, same program, canvas size, evrything. Btw, since you are a cat, this dog is gonna get you.
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marcello (Apr 10, 2004)
There's no "going into" about it, I made the system, I should know how it works. =P
Let me explain a little more in detail.
Ok first off, the number one affect on file size is the size of your canvas. If you draw large images, you'll take up more space, simple as that.
On 2draw, for each image you have a number of different files. You have the full quality PNG, an optional compressed JPG version (only if it is smaller than the PNG), then 3 different thumbnails (PNG or JPG, whichever is smaller, typically JPG is). Then for each version, you will have 2 small thumbnail versions (which are probably a rather small % of the image total space), and either a JPG or PNG copy of the version (whichever is smaller). Then last of all, you have a format specific to the applet.

As I said above, a PNG version is stored with every image, PNG is lossless compression. Take BMP, one of the simplest image formats around, for each pixel 4 bytes of space are used, so a 400x400 image will use 640KB, uncompressed. Now, PNG will actually compress the information considerably by taking regions of solid color that is, the exact same RGB for a rectangular block of area, and compress it quite well. This means a completely black image at 400x400 can compress to less than 1KB. However, if from one pixel to the next, the color changes (such as with a gradient, soft, or antialiased lines), it can barely compress that at all, and in the absolute worst case (where every single pixel is different across the canvas), your PNG file will approach that 640KB size of the BMP.
JPG on the other hand, is lossy and can compress images better by taking approximations of the image.

For the most part, the PNG and JPG files do not take enough space to cause a problem.

What hits you is the applet-specific format. On PaintBBS, Shi-Painter, and OekakiBBS, an 'animation' file is recorded, which is essentially a recording of each x,y pair of each drawing stroke. This is not really comparable to a video format (which would make huge files). The number of layers, size of strokes, number of undos, etc. all have no effect on the animation file. The amount of time you spend on a picture does not affect the animation size other than by the number of strokes. If you just leave the image open, nothing is recorded. In addition, this is compressed, generally creating a rather small image (less than 100KB) even for extremely elaborate files. So, the number of strokes will in fact affect the animation size, but you need to do a lot of strokes before it becomes significant.

The main difference is on Lascaux Sketch, which uses a bitmap format rather than animation. Lascaux Sketch's LSD format (quite comparable in size and features to Photoshop's PSD) stores the equivalent of a PNG file for each layer into one file. So in this case, the number of strokes, the amount of time, size of brush, etc. does not affect the end file size by any means. However, the size of the canvas, the number of layers, and complexity of the image (read the bit above about how PNG compresses images) all affect the end result.

There are pros and cons to both methods. On average, the bitmap format Lascaux Sketch uses is much larger than an equivalent image stored in animation format. So, from a server standpoint, animation is better. However, the cons of animation format is 1) when you want to resume an image, you have to wait for the computer to "rebuild" the image from the animation so that all the layers are preserved. 2) it is much harder to make a 'stable' animation format. If the animation data gets corrupted or stored incorrectly anywhere in the image, everything after that point will either be completely lost or just turn out plain wrong. In the case of the bitmap format, it is really a matter of what-you-see-is-what-you-get. The layers you had when you saved/submitted your image will turn up exactly as you had when you load it again.

An animation format for Lascaux Sketch has been made, but is currently incomplete (does not support a lot of layer operations, selections, text, and so on), meaning the image would not load back up as you drew it.
evil_cloud (edited Apr 11, 2004)
i like this, and i ask, why thrumbnails of this kind of pics rock so much?


PS: LOL MARCELLO -100 points for so long comment ^^U
davincipoppalag (Apr 11, 2004)
Gives Marcello 200 points for the informative dissertation.. thanks..
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 11, 2004)
Um, yeah, okay. I comprehended like two sentences of that stuff. You just build it, I'll just play with it. :)
drawn in 11 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
KiwiKitsune (Apr 9, 2004)
Heh... I feel SO ignored on this site. It's just... eh... I feel... practically... invisible. I feel like the fox. The fox is crying because she is ignored. Just like me. xD

EDIT: "DO NOT STEAL MY CHARACTERS. The Kaleni (plural for Kalena) are my own made up characters. I got bored in school one day and said, "POOF GOES THE MONKEY, PIZIA!!" Then, I just started drawing these things..."
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evil_cloud (Apr 10, 2004)
Gotta catch em all 2DRAW'mon
KiwiKitsune (edited Apr 10, 2004)
To evil_cloud:
o.O;; Uhm... no... I don't like Poke`mon anymore. Why do you think that I got a new screename for 2draw? My old one was pinkuespeon... o.O;; I call thes critters Kaleni... ^_^;;

To Soshell:
...uh? I don't know... I think that I got rid of it because it didn't fit in..? Or... something... x.x I don't know! ^_^;;
mooseflower (Apr 11, 2004)
they're all so cute! I wan't to hug the red one. *painfully finds a computer screen in her way* aw dangit. Anywho, it's really cool. AND... counting the number of comments you have on this, I wouldn't say you're ignored anymore...
Knockoff (Apr 11, 2004)
Why did you go to a new prorfile, and on deviantart.........
drawn in 1 hour 43 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Beginner 
foxman8245 (Apr 2, 2004)
Thought I would work with watercolors on this one
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davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
He looks like E.T.'s father fox , I see the resemeblance in the eyes!
foxman8245 (Apr 10, 2004)
Yeah. he sure does!! mabey I shoulda' put him a stretched out neck on there. LOL
Deformed (Apr 10, 2004)
Aww. He's so cute!!
Wez (Apr 13, 2004)
nice bg he looks a little like ET :)
drawn in 37 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
Public Boards/Intermediate 
DinoFlorist (Apr 9, 2004)
Oh my goodness, it took very little space!
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Tuukke (edited Apr 9, 2004)
i think that you should spend more time in your drawings in intermediate boards? nice dog :)
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
Exactly 11 minutes for this one too ,Dino! What were you trying to prove about file size?
drawn in 11 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
 
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