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DinoFlorist (Apr 12, 2004)
In a world of boxfish, bears, and sea dragons, you had better be on their side. Cause if you're not, you're on snakeys side, and nobody even knows what he IS!
3 comments – latest 3:
davincipoppalag (Apr 12, 2004)
I love your characters.
laurael (Apr 16, 2004)
I like your art style Dino...now, how do you get them to look like this again?
fleeting_memory (Apr 17, 2004)
ah I see the admeral has a friend
drawn in 46 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DinoFlorist (Apr 9, 2004)
Now there is evidence to support all of our conversation on file size, Icats! Same amount of time, both one layer, same program, canvas size, evrything. Btw, since you are a cat, this dog is gonna get you.
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marcello (Apr 10, 2004)
There's no "going into" about it, I made the system, I should know how it works. =P
Let me explain a little more in detail.
Ok first off, the number one affect on file size is the size of your canvas. If you draw large images, you'll take up more space, simple as that.
On 2draw, for each image you have a number of different files. You have the full quality PNG, an optional compressed JPG version (only if it is smaller than the PNG), then 3 different thumbnails (PNG or JPG, whichever is smaller, typically JPG is). Then for each version, you will have 2 small thumbnail versions (which are probably a rather small % of the image total space), and either a JPG or PNG copy of the version (whichever is smaller). Then last of all, you have a format specific to the applet.

As I said above, a PNG version is stored with every image, PNG is lossless compression. Take BMP, one of the simplest image formats around, for each pixel 4 bytes of space are used, so a 400x400 image will use 640KB, uncompressed. Now, PNG will actually compress the information considerably by taking regions of solid color that is, the exact same RGB for a rectangular block of area, and compress it quite well. This means a completely black image at 400x400 can compress to less than 1KB. However, if from one pixel to the next, the color changes (such as with a gradient, soft, or antialiased lines), it can barely compress that at all, and in the absolute worst case (where every single pixel is different across the canvas), your PNG file will approach that 640KB size of the BMP.
JPG on the other hand, is lossy and can compress images better by taking approximations of the image.

For the most part, the PNG and JPG files do not take enough space to cause a problem.

What hits you is the applet-specific format. On PaintBBS, Shi-Painter, and OekakiBBS, an 'animation' file is recorded, which is essentially a recording of each x,y pair of each drawing stroke. This is not really comparable to a video format (which would make huge files). The number of layers, size of strokes, number of undos, etc. all have no effect on the animation file. The amount of time you spend on a picture does not affect the animation size other than by the number of strokes. If you just leave the image open, nothing is recorded. In addition, this is compressed, generally creating a rather small image (less than 100KB) even for extremely elaborate files. So, the number of strokes will in fact affect the animation size, but you need to do a lot of strokes before it becomes significant.

The main difference is on Lascaux Sketch, which uses a bitmap format rather than animation. Lascaux Sketch's LSD format (quite comparable in size and features to Photoshop's PSD) stores the equivalent of a PNG file for each layer into one file. So in this case, the number of strokes, the amount of time, size of brush, etc. does not affect the end file size by any means. However, the size of the canvas, the number of layers, and complexity of the image (read the bit above about how PNG compresses images) all affect the end result.

There are pros and cons to both methods. On average, the bitmap format Lascaux Sketch uses is much larger than an equivalent image stored in animation format. So, from a server standpoint, animation is better. However, the cons of animation format is 1) when you want to resume an image, you have to wait for the computer to "rebuild" the image from the animation so that all the layers are preserved. 2) it is much harder to make a 'stable' animation format. If the animation data gets corrupted or stored incorrectly anywhere in the image, everything after that point will either be completely lost or just turn out plain wrong. In the case of the bitmap format, it is really a matter of what-you-see-is-what-you-get. The layers you had when you saved/submitted your image will turn up exactly as you had when you load it again.

An animation format for Lascaux Sketch has been made, but is currently incomplete (does not support a lot of layer operations, selections, text, and so on), meaning the image would not load back up as you drew it.
evil_cloud (edited Apr 11, 2004)
i like this, and i ask, why thrumbnails of this kind of pics rock so much?


PS: LOL MARCELLO -100 points for so long comment ^^U
davincipoppalag (Apr 11, 2004)
Gives Marcello 200 points for the informative dissertation.. thanks..
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 11, 2004)
Um, yeah, okay. I comprehended like two sentences of that stuff. You just build it, I'll just play with it. :)
drawn in 11 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DinoFlorist (Apr 9, 2004)
Oh my goodness, it took very little space!
2 comments – latest 2:
Tuukke (edited Apr 9, 2004)
i think that you should spend more time in your drawings in intermediate boards? nice dog :)
davincipoppalag (Apr 9, 2004)
Exactly 11 minutes for this one too ,Dino! What were you trying to prove about file size?
drawn in 11 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DinoFlorist (Apr 7, 2004)
:)
5 comments – latest 4:
LovelyLori (Apr 7, 2004)
cool, looks like the gods are angry
davincipoppalag (Apr 7, 2004)
This is the council of elders who advise the admiral.. Nice sketch Dino
staci (Apr 8, 2004)
i like eyeballs.
TheCrimsonKing (Apr 8, 2004)
ahh from geneshaft no? If not, who cares. Very cool image
drawn in 31 min with Oekaki Shi-Painter
DinoFlorist (Apr 6, 2004)
The new rookies in my NBA game don't have portraits and I need them to keep my fake stats, so I made it up! This may happen every once in a while, hopefully I will improve. This PF was from Israel, so...
4 comments – latest 4:
laurael (Apr 6, 2004)
How do you get it to look like you're working with clay?
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 6, 2004)
Theodore Hunted, all right. Theodore Roosevelt hunted. Bears, that is, so now we have Teddy Bears. And you draw them all the time. Is this a subconscious thing.... LOL
dixielandcutie (Apr 7, 2004)
hehe dino...*speechless*you're awesome! nice work
davincipoppalag (Apr 7, 2004)
Dino climbs into the screen, molds these from clay, then posts... lol great one Dino
drawn in 32 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DinoFlorist (Apr 5, 2004)
Egads! I thought I lost this!
9 comments – latest 4:
DinoFlorist (Apr 5, 2004)
What counts as a sketch? Does this? It didn't take very long!
RavioloiTheDancingClown (Apr 5, 2004)
this is a sketchy yes.......
davincipoppalag (Apr 6, 2004)
Dino I love this. Your style is very unique and I love almost everything you do.
laurael (Apr 6, 2004)
Yeah, I love your stuff too, just haven't had all the time to comment on everyone's stuff up here...but I am 'now'...this is great!
drawn in 33 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DinoFlorist (Mar 30, 2004)
The Admiral rides again!

Well, now I can't add the fire shrimp! You bastards!
6 comments – latest 4:
LovelyLori (Apr 3, 2004)
this coloring is great Dino... however do you have the patience... your technique looks like it takes quite a while to do! Loveth it...
davincipoppalag (Apr 3, 2004)
Ah good to see the Admiral in charge again..lol I love these...
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Apr 3, 2004)
Put me in there in the boat! I want to go!!! :D
fleeting_memory (Apr 4, 2004)
YAY! *does the happy fish dance* The Admiral is my idol
drawn in 2 hours 16 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Advanced 
DinoFlorist (Mar 21, 2004)
Winter doesn't really have a harvest so the snowman just kind of walks around in the snow and looks at things.
11 comments – latest 4:
LovelyLori (Mar 30, 2004)
I really love this too.... great detail, so icy...
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 30, 2004)
Well, it did get better! The darker shading you did on the house in this edit give the picture so much more depth, and the icicles look so real I just want to pull one off and suck on it!! :D When it's 112 degrees in the shade here in August, I'll have to come back and look at this.
laurael (edited Aug 27, 2005)
Okay...shove my head in the snow for takin' so long to comment on this wonderfully done job! The shading on the nose and the blues rock, dino...
JackSprat (Jul 20, 2004)
This is too cool....what...do you do greeting cards for a living?
drawn in 1 hour 59 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
Public Boards/Beginner 
DinoFlorist (Mar 23, 2004)
Yo ho, yo ho! A boxfishes life for me!
6 comments – latest 4:
fleeting_memory (edited Mar 30, 2004)
YAY! The Admiral boxfish is back! We missed him!
davincipoppalag (Mar 29, 2004)
He's just so kissable.. lol...
ambermac (Mar 29, 2004)
totally weird.i like it.
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 29, 2004)
Salute to the admiral. :]
drawn in 24 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
DinoFlorist (Mar 24, 2004)
It's supposed to be a brontosaurus looking down upon you, but it's kind of like a cloud. I see something else when I look at it
6 comments – latest 4:
LovelyLori (Mar 24, 2004)
yeah, lol, it kinda looks like a weinie, with a loaded condom on... lol
DeadlyBlondeArcher (Mar 24, 2004)
I just love that style, I can't figure out how you do it! Fraggle Fraggle! (lol @ lori, and I thought I just had a dirty mind)
davincipoppalag (Mar 25, 2004)
hee heee hee..Dino told me how Dino told me how (hee hee I'm keepin the secret)~
Pandora (Mar 25, 2004)
Looks like clay was used. Very cool
drawn in 15 min with Lascaux Sketch Classic
 
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